[WRC] Rally Finland 2023

[Doon]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but there aren’t any manufacturers currently serious about joining the WRC. That means if they can attract one it’ll be at least 2025 (more realistically 2026) until they are ready to start a rally. If one manufacturer joins, that’s 2 or 3 cars at best. Hardly fixing the problem.

The WRC has never been able to sustain more than 3 manufacturers, even during the late 90s early 2000’s when there were up to 7 teams, this was very short lived. What rallying can do is create more affordable classes, which always made the good events more interesting because we had satellite teams running quality drives who could push the works teams. How many genuine privateers have we had in Rally 1 cars, hiring from the works teams, 2? Berttelli and Sedaridis? Fair play to them for making up the numbers, but neither of them could challenge for a top 10 in WRC2 on a good day, so don’t bring much to the party apart from a few quid to M-Sport.

[Eli]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but there aren’t any manufacturers currently serious about joining the WRC. That means if they can attract one it’ll be at least 2025 (more realistically 2026) until they are ready to start a rally. If one manufacturer joins, that’s 2 or 3 cars at best. Hardly fixing the problem.

The WRC has never been able to sustain more than 3 manufacturers, even during the late 90s early 2000’s when there were up to 7 teams, this was very short lived. What rallying can do is create more affordable classes, which always made the good events more interesting because we had satellite teams running quality drives who could push the works teams. How many genuine privateers have we had in Rally 1 cars, hiring from the works teams, 2? Berttelli and Sedaridis? Fair play to them for making up the numbers, but neither of them could challenge for a top 10 in WRC2 on a good day, so don’t bring much to the party apart from a few quid to M-Sport.

We did have 4 manufacturers for... 6 seasons? 2014-2019 but for the most part since 2005, it has been 3 manufacturers.

[TypeR]

Taka: ,,Kalle has tough me with condirions like this''
Interviewer: ,,What has Kalle's advice been?''
Taka: ,,Just angle and flat-out!''

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC was kind of unlucky to lose VW (dieselgate), and then also Citroen (C3 failed Ogier). Imagine if they had both stayed.

[jonkka]

WRC was kind of unlucky to lose VW (dieselgate), and then also Citroen (C3 failed Ogier). Imagine if they had both stayed.

If you start on that road, you can add to that list likes of Peugeot, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Mini, Suzuki, Seat, Skoda and few more if you go further back in time.

[BleAivano]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but there aren’t any manufacturers currently serious about joining the WRC. That means if they can attract one it’ll be at least 2025 (more realistically 2026) until they are ready to start a rally. If one manufacturer joins, that’s 2 or 3 cars at best. Hardly fixing the problem.

The WRC has never been able to sustain more than 3 manufacturers, even during the late 90s early 2000’s when there were up to 7 teams, this was very short lived. What rallying can do is create more affordable classes, which always made the good events more interesting because we had satellite teams running quality drives who could push the works teams. How many genuine privateers have we had in Rally 1 cars, hiring from the works teams, 2? Berttelli and Sedaridis? Fair play to them for making up the numbers, but neither of them could challenge for a top 10 in WRC2 on a good day, so don’t bring much to the party apart from a few quid to M-Sport.

The problem is that motorsport is very expensive regardless of how much cost saving and affordability one tries to enforce. There have already been lots of cost sving rules and changes. Dont really think there is any more cost saving that can be done and evidentially all the cost saving done so far haven't really made manufacturers flock to WRC.

[skarderud]

The problem is that motorsport is very expensive regardless of how much cost saving and affordability one tries to enforce. There have already been lots of cost sving rules and changes. Dont really think there is any more cost saving that can be done and evidentially all the cost saving done so far haven't really made manufacturers flock to WRC.

If the manufacturers isn't interested in motorsport/rally anymore, why keep that rule that they have to homologate the cars?

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[AndyRAC]

The problem is that motorsport is very expensive regardless of how much cost saving and affordability one tries to enforce. There have already been lots of cost sving rules and changes. Don't really think there is any more cost saving that can be done and evidentially all the cost saving done so far haven't really made manufacturers flock to WRC.

Yes, motorsport is expensive, however it hasn't stopped other series attracting manufacturers - so they're doing something right. Sadly, the WRC isn't......cutting costs is one thing, but you need to offer value - again, the WRC doesn't offer value.

[RS]

Nobody talking about the actual rally? At least the fight in Rally2 has been quite good although a lot of accidents, problems and punctures there too.

[RS]

Taka: ,,Kalle has tough me with condirions like this''
Interviewer: ,,What has Kalle's advice been?''
Taka: ,,Just angle and flat-out!''

This sums up the Rally1 style in general, at least on loose surfaces.