Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

**Us44** · 26th July 2023, 08:34

It seems that the 34mm restrictor can make a huge difference - https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...2023/?s=427051

Vaidotas Žala was driving a R5 Skoda with a 34mm restrictor and in the end he was almost a minute faster than everyone else. He's a very fast driver, but I think that the 34mm restrictor also helped quite a bit and the competition was also not slow.

**meh** · 26th July 2023, 08:59

Originally Posted by bomber21

Make Rally2 the top class, give them bigger spoilers, improve the sound, use e-fuel and promote it as eco friendly.

And see what happens.

Rally1 happens

**skarderud** · 26th July 2023, 12:05

Originally Posted by meh

Rally1 happens

Rally1 is a dead horse. Quit whip it.

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**seb_sh** · 26th July 2023, 17:03

Group A was spectacular because of the noise and driving style, even if technically the cars were a step down from Group B or WRC that followed. Besides power and aero I think a lot of the spectacle is due to suspension and tyres. Since Group A there was a lot of development in that area so cars run much smoother and look less dramatic. I've been watching Passats de Canto videos on youtube lately, they upload a lot of Group A stuff and it's quite fun to see them slide around on gravel and bounce quite visibly on tarmac.

Unfortunately it seems the WRC is missing the point once again, the product itself is not the issue, maybe some small tweaks to the format can be done but I will say it again the main issue is lack of top level cars. In Estonia there were only 8 at the start but we were lucky nobody had major issues so there was something to follow for most of the rally. Just to take some example, if Evans had a puncture and Loubet took a wheel off again then Hyundai would have told Neuville and Lappi to hold position and there would be no fight to follow. I think if there would be around 15 top class cars starting the event a lot of the issues would be resolved by the increased competition. Maybe 1 or 2 would be pay drivers and always be at the rear but I'm pretty sure there are enough interesting drivers to make a more interesting lineup. Another advantage is youngsters get more seat time in the top cars. As several have mentioned recently it's a big step and if only a few drivers are in those cars it's very hard for someone new to step up and so the chance of having someone dominate is increased in my opinion.

**Managarium** · 1st August 2023, 15:40

So today I've grabbed a local croatian car magazine.
There was an subject of salaries in motorsport.

najplaćeniji = most payed

milijuna = millions

They are talking in €

**bomber21** · 1st August 2023, 22:02

I highly doubt.

**ouvreur** · 2nd August 2023, 07:49

Yeah, I don't think that has any basis in facts or reality, unfortunately.

**the sniper** · 3rd August 2023, 00:15

In the case of Loubet and Fourmaux, is it not more likely that's closer to being what they're paying for their drives...

**Jarek Z** · 4th August 2023, 08:26

Subaru Motorsports USA unveils their new rally car. Driver Brandon Semenuk and co-driver Keaton Williams will pilot the car in its racing debut at Ojibwe Forests Rally on August 24-25. Extreme sport legend Travis Pastrana will join in a second car in the 2024 season.

I know this news is not related to WRC, but it's still good to see the engagement of the official manufacturer team in rallying in these hard times:
https://www.subaru.com/subaru-motors...24-season.html

**Rallyest** · 7th August 2023, 05:33

I dont know if this has been discussed here already, but to me next logical move from Oliver would be Toyotas Rally2 next season if they want him and he is interested, and maybe 1-2 good season with the car and then maybe some yaris rally1 drives?