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Thread: WRC main class in 2025
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6th June 2023, 07:57 #301
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Rally2 as the top category is the most viable way for WRC at the moment. There is an abundance of cars available, from a variety of makes. It will open up the field hugely and allow youngsters and local talents their time in the sun, (which has always been a WRC staple till about a decade ago). Adding local interest and the element of surprise will drive up visibility. Even allowing non factory supported cars like the Mirage R5 and the Holzer Corsa can help too. Will also allow exceptional talents with R3 cars to shine by mixing it up with the bigger cars, instead of living in anonymity as is the case now. Yeah, ok, R1 are much more spectacular,but a 6 car championship can't sustain itself for much.
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6th June 2023, 09:18 #302
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Yeah, open up for not-factory supported tuners is obvious.
The manufacturers is not interested enough that is logical to have a monopoly on this anymore.
M-sport started as a local tuner, delivered quite good Escort Gr.A's at the time.
It is not magic or anything, toyota also started as Mäkinen's subaru workshop.
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6th June 2023, 09:46 #303
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But Rally2 is the wrong ruleset for that, and the mentioned Holzer Corsa is the perfect example. It was more or less ready, but Opel refused permission to homologate it. And both cars mentioned are old and wouldn't stand a chance.
Rally1 with a spaceframe chassis would be perfect for rally teams to build and develop there own cars (think F1 constructors or past sportscar teams like Courage, Pescarolo,...), without a manufacturer stoping the fun because there brand is involved. The cost factor is still there, but the pricetag of the car is hardly the deciding factor considering the budgets involved in the WRC.
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6th June 2023, 11:00 #304
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Yup, base it on Rally2 but make it space frame, allow privaters to build cars and bum, it's instant hit.
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6th June 2023, 11:28 #305
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Petter takes lead;
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/drive...er-wrc-future/
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6th June 2023, 11:38 #306
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I suspect this meeting will result in nothing new. They need more than "Hey drivers, what you want?"
Cuz they will only say stuff like "You need to promote it better, make it cooler for the fans and I want to not start first on fridays"
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6th June 2023, 12:19 #307
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I started watching wrc in 2014 after falling in love with rallycross. But I was never a wrc+ guy. I only watch thoae daily highlights, which I find awesome. They do the job, honestly. Tho ERC's 45 min highlights were easier to follow. Like, they'd pop on my YouTube feed and thats it. Easier to watch than to have to go to redbullTV and watch one 22min highlight per day. And we dont miss out on 45min vs 66min (3 22min highlights), cuz redbullTV waste some time with recap from previous days and showing the calendar again and again... WRC is an excellent championship, but maybe they should just try to have a 45min highlights on YouTube AND on TV. Thats what I would change. The product is attractive enough, lets be honest. Of course it'd be better if all the top Rally2 guys were on the same machines as the Rally1 guys too. But I like watching Rally2 cars finishing P5. I am all IN for that. Just show them more on the broadcast
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6th June 2023, 14:26 #308
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Rally 2 does appear to be an affordable and financially sustainable formula for teams and privateers. It’s providing great sport for us fans too.
Perhaps Rally 1 should adopt the technical framework from Rally 2 but exclusively for EV vehicles?
Differentiation would be in the EV powertrain, granting more manufacturer autonomy in this area than is the case currently for ICE R2. Such EV vehicles could also easily command a power advantage to assure Rally 1 EV is the fastest category in the event.
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6th June 2023, 14:33 #309
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i dont know if the opinion has changed now but before this latest rule change the teams were against Rally2 being the main class
i remember someone here posted an interview with some finnish guy who was in FIA or smth and he said they proposed it but Toyota, Hyundai and M-sport didnt want.
Maybe someone can find it, im too lazy too search for it#8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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6th June 2023, 15:10 #310
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It's either Full EV or Rally2.
FullEV has largest possible manu support, but of those currently in it likely is only for Hyundai and maybe Ford. Most risky for many reasons.
Rally2 is easiest short term but will likely turn this into "clubsport" as manus will stop directly running teams. Issue with long term perspective ( over 3-5 years).
Almost all Finn's since Paavo Nurmi who are fast in their sport have been called "Flying", particularly the 1960's rally drivers, but I was actually thinking of "Flying Finnish" - the timing line at...
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