M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

**spyros** · 24th April 2023, 10:07

for me it is noble desire, puma will never be at the level of yaris or i20.

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 26th April 2023, 10:29

Bittersweet podium for Tanak in Croatia...

https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2023/wrc...eet-for-tanak/

Sounds like some progress at least.

**meh** · 26th April 2023, 11:04

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Bittersweet podium for Tanak in Croatia...

https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2023/wrc...eet-for-tanak/

Sounds like some progress at least.

From performance point of view, gifts from Rovanperä (puncture), Ogier (puncture + penalty), Neuville (crash from the lead) gave them 3 places. Without all those mentioned ones he could be 5th and the sweetness could be gone from the title.

Tänak have said it many times - they somehow have managed to deliver results, but one can not expect this to continue without improving performance/reliability.

But some improvements for sure, especially in the fast and flowing roads.

**spyros** · 26th April 2023, 14:27

i expect them to struggle in slow gravel rallyes like sardinia, greece etc...

**doubled1978** · 26th April 2023, 19:05

Originally Posted by spyros

i expect them to struggle in slow gravel rallyes like sardinia, greece etc...

Personally, I think on gravel Tanak will be ok so long as the car remains reliable, that’s a big if currently.

**mknight** · 27th April 2023, 04:47

Speedwise slow gravel has been the best surface for the car.

Reliability seems at same poor level on all surfaces.

**AnttiL** · 27th April 2023, 05:15

Originally Posted by mknight

Speedwise slow gravel has been the best surface for the car.

Reliability seems at same poor level on all surfaces.

do we have reliability issues from fast gravel events?

**meh** · 27th April 2023, 05:42

Originally Posted by AnttiL

do we have reliability issues from fast gravel events?

I think most reliability issues are not surface specific

**AnttiL** · 27th April 2023, 06:31

Originally Posted by meh

I think most reliability issues are not surface specific

different surfaces and conditions give pressure to different components of the car. But I don't recall any faults in the Puma in Estonia or Finland last year. Tarmac is smooth but the forces from the high grip put strain on the car. Technical gravel is bumpy with rocks and also usually very hot and dusty. Fast gravel rallies have jumps but typically less acceleration and braking, and less cooling problems due to bigger airflow and typically less heat.

**sinepikohv** · 1st May 2023, 07:09

Originally Posted by doubled1978

Personally, I think on gravel Tanak will be ok so long as the car remains reliable, that’s a big if currently.

I think it applies to all surfaces. When he started going fast and winning stages in Croatia the Puma started breaking. In Mexico the car broke pretty much at the start.