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    Quote Originally Posted by philippebugalski View Post
    Absolutely correct.

    As someone who drove on that road countless times and watched dozens of PET's and development test on that particular road section this is just terrible fate and bad luck.
    Corner speed there in rainy conditions is about 70ish-80ish km/h and if a car would go off a million times then this is ''once in a million'' situation. Still 2 days after in complete shock and disbelief...

    RIP Craig, we will miss you!
    Can this road be found on google maps?

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    The most infuriating and sad thing is that it's one in a million chance... you could crash out of that corner at that speed countless times and escape unhurt. Life was so unfair with Craig.
    About objects penetrating into cars, I don't know if you can technically do something in the case of guard rails slicing through the car, like what happened to Kubica in 2011 and of course Craig and Jaffa in 2012. But if the objects goes through the windshield, what can you do? Here there is an onboard of Robert Zitta at Janner Rallye 2012 (he was unhurt) to give an idea:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50lOpMTvRhY

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    You can change the materials the windows are made from, certainly for the side windows.

    That's the main thing that could be considered.

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    Very sad! I would say, the fate - probability that particular piece of wood under particular angle would penetrate the front window could be counted as 1 of 1 million or even smaller. Few cm here and there and outcome could have been different. This is smth from McRae and heli-crash, Schumacher and hitting that stone and some more similar cases. I know the case where the rally driver was killed, when car rolling in to the field hit a piece of old concrete exactly with window opening between the rollcage tubes - the same rate of probability as Craigs, but it somehow just happened. This danger is a part of risks taken in rally.
    Last edited by AndersX; 15th April 2023 at 10:26.

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    another 1 in a million crash when wood penetrates rally car https://youtu.be/lLZtTl9ZODQ?t=33
    this time lucky, and as someone here mentioned ' danger is a part of risks taken in rally.'....
    Rest in peace Craig Breen... Gone too soon and we will miss you!

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    And another example, from Poland, a few years ago (at 1:00):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kfm-83c5NE
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Not a good watch these videos with the cockpit penetration. So lucky that these didn’t end the same way as the Breen crash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    You can change the materials the windows are made from, certainly for the side windows.

    That's the main thing that could be considered.
    there are definately stronger materials available than they use now.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7kym3FJOg4

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    46°09'21.5"N 16°03'53.9"E
    https://goo.gl/maps/w7g24c18MXn8kFeT9

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    This thread turned into an autism competition really fast... from covering every tree and pole with hayballs and protective stuff to using jet materials for car windows... maybe we can put lifeguards on every lake in finland as well so we can avoid drownings... and why not bulletproof armour around the car... kubica would be absolutely fine in an armoured vehicle....

    i really would like to hear the opinions of safety autists on the TT... lol



    Poor Craig.... its a pity that your demise due to sheer bad luck turned into a "who is the biggest retard" competition among rally fans....
    Last edited by NOT; 15th April 2023 at 14:34.

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