Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

**AnttiL** · 23rd March 2023, 12:24

Originally Posted by dnb

Just that they cut the picture while the most interesting stuff happened (Lappi). And missed some other important driver mistakes or "happenings".

The director can't predict the future. They can show a number of cars but can only guess who will crash out. Lappi's situation was shown as a replay.

**Franky** · 23rd March 2023, 13:28

They cut away from Lappi to show the following two cars just cruising the stage.

**Rallyper** · 24th March 2023, 07:52

Sometimes they cut just before an interesting passage from incar, only showing 5 secs of car revving on the startline.

**ouvreur** · 24th March 2023, 08:15

I really don't get why they have to show every car taking off from the start line. It's only interesting if the car has an issue - even then, just show a replay if something noteworthy happens.

Same with in-car shots of the driver / crew's faces. That isn't where the action is, it's just one person turning a steering wheel, and another reading a book. Again - show a replay if something actually interesting or amusing happens, no problem. But live? When has anything worth looking at happened on the face cam?

**AnttiL** · 24th March 2023, 08:35

Originally Posted by ouvreur

I really don't get why they have to show every car taking off from the start line. It's only interesting if the car has an issue - even then, just show a replay if something noteworthy happens.

Same with in-car shots of the driver / crew's faces. That isn't where the action is, it's just one person turning a steering wheel, and another reading a book. Again - show a replay if something actually interesting or amusing happens, no problem. But live? When has anything worth looking at happened on the face cam?

I agree with you. But I also try to understand why they do this stuff.

Start line shots are only shown on TV stages. They are likely for sponsors, so the decals an be seen clearly on a stopped car. It also creates a "story" for a person who doesn't watch rallying so much, showing the order in which things happen ie. a car starts, drives on stage, another car starts, first car finishes etc.

Face cam is just a gimmick to me. It's a nice touch if used sparsely, but it's not informative at all. But maybe it makes the footage less monotonous.

**AnttiL** · 24th March 2023, 08:36

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Sometimes they cut just before an interesting passage from incar, only showing 5 secs of car revving on the startline.

I think when the director cuts to another camera, it doesn't happen instantly so we sometimes see something interesting happening but can't cancel the cutting anymore.

**Franky** · 24th March 2023, 08:54

Originally Posted by AnttiL

I think when the director cuts to another camera, it doesn't happen instantly so we sometimes see something interesting happening but can't cancel the cutting anymore.

Cuts happen instantly. You push a button and done.

**AnttiL** · 24th March 2023, 09:14

Originally Posted by Franky

Cuts happen instantly. You push a button and done.

There's a some sort of transformation animation?

**Franky** · 24th March 2023, 10:31

Originally Posted by AnttiL

There's a some sort of transformation animation?

But transitions have a known duration. But with the start cameras it should be possible to trim the excess precisely as I believe they are always recordings/replays on normal stages.

**wyler** · 25th March 2023, 18:46

Originally Posted by Franky

But transitions have a known duration. But with the start cameras it should be possible to trim the excess precisely as I believe they are always recordings/replays on normal stages.

cameras are live all the time, you can switch (more than cut) instantly. you can apply a fixed time transition (wrc+ don't). that's the technical part.
the other side is narration/storytelling grammar. you have a semi-fixed script to balance the airing time between cars and also some fixed need. i.e = p.s starting of any car/end of ps/interview.