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Thread: [WRC] Rally Mexico 2023
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13th February 2023, 16:46 #21
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15th February 2023, 16:18 #22
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Being 1st vs. 2nd on the road in Mexico between 2016-20 as I wasn't arsed to look up more info and in 2015 Ogier won while starting first anyway.
I wanted to revisit those rallies and how 1st on the road fared in comparison to 2nd on the road to get an indication whether Rovanperä really needed to leave some points on the table in Sweden.
TL;DR is that it's mightily difficult to win in Mexico regardless whether you're 1st on the road or 2nd and the odds of a good result with a pretty much pure drive are rather similar. "Elementary, my dear Sinepikohv," you might say. Sure, go ahead, but I found this interesting nonetheless. I just hope I didn't leave anything out even though I checked everything multiple times but I'm a human being not ChatGPT...
2016
Ogier was 1st on the road and was 32,1 seconds behind JML after the first full day in 2nd position. Finished 2nd losing 1.05.
Mikkelsen was 2nd on the road and finished the first full day 4th but had problems with the brakes and the car started acting weird after he overshot a junction. So not the best example to measure how he fared being 2nd on the road.
2017
JML was 1st on the road and finished the first full day 8th, but had many problems. Overheated engine, issues with central diff, had to drive a part of a stage in road mode and with brakes that didn't operate how they should. Was "lucky" that almost 75 km of stages got cancelled. Finished the rally in 6th.
Ogier was 2nd on the road. Finished the first full day 2nd and was 2nd after Sunday as well.
2018
Neuville started 1st on the road. Had problems with the engine and steering, was 7th after the first full day but was behind the leader Sordo by 2.01,9. Finished the rally 6th.
Ogier was 2nd on the road and was 5th after the first full day. Managed to win the event beating Sordo by over a minute.
2019
Tänak was 1st on the road and finished the first full day 4th, 37,1 second behind Ogier. Finished the rally 2nd, lost 30,2 to Ogier.
Neuville started 2nd, but he suffered a puncture in the first full day. Was 6th at the end of the day and 4th at the end of the rally.
2020
Evans was 1st on the road and finished the first full day 3rd losing 33,2 to Ogier. A stage (17,24 km) was cancelled in the first day so would've lost a bit more. Finished the rally 4th.
Neuville was 2nd on the road but retired. Was 3rd before that losing 19,3 second to Ogier.Last edited by sinepikohv; 15th February 2023 at 16:19. Reason: Grammar
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16th February 2023, 09:16 #23
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https://itgetsfasternow.com/2023/02/...y-mexico-2023/
Route preview. Mostly familiar, the new sections on Sunday were left undriven in 2020. Two new super specials which look really nice!
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22nd February 2023, 12:22 #24
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Does someone know when the entrylist is published
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22nd February 2023, 12:43 #25
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22nd February 2023, 17:45 #26
Anyone has access to the Rally Guide 2? Would you mind to share in pvt? TIA!
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23rd February 2023, 11:29 #27
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https://twitter.com/AnttiL_WRC/statu...37019525447680
WRC2 names include Greensmith, Solberg, Fourmaux, Lindholm (Fabia Evo), Gryazin (Fabia Evo), Kajetanowicz and Prokop. Only Dominguez in WRC3.
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23rd February 2023, 12:18 #28
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WRC.com explains why Nikolay Gryazin and defending WRC2 champion Emil Lindhom are reverting back to older-specification Fabia Rally2 Evos for the event.
“We are using the Rally2 Evo for Mexico since it was logistically the only option,” Lindholm explained. “The cars have travelled straight from Japan to Mexico by ship along with all the parts needed. This was simply the easiest way of doing it.”
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24th February 2023, 10:59 #29
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25th February 2023, 00:46 #30
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Full story and interview with Loubet ahead of his WRC2 return in Portugal: https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/loubets-new-perspective-in-a-similar-mission/
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