WRC main class in 2025

[becher]

Doubt.... But both FIA and WRC know that Toyota wants hybrid, Renault wants electric, Stellantis wants hybrid... Work with that cuz it sounds interesting and "it looks like a Rally2+ thing"

Rally2+ won't happen as they will base the "new rules" on the current Rally1 regulations => spaceframe and third party hybrid unit.

[steve.mandzij]

at one point I would also have supported a Rally2+ thing but it's clear neither FIA nor the teams want that. plus, it would be messing with a formula that is working fine as things stand now, and making it the top class and/or hybrid would increase the costs that make it "accessible".

i liked Richard Millener's thoughts on the matter

[fiscorpun]

Extreme-E to start testing its new car in June. The car runs on Hydrogen and the new class will be called Extreme-H. Serie's owner dont know if its going to be a totally new Championship or something to compete together with the Electric Trucks. But... Anyway... Is the sport "moving forward" while I feel WRC is stuck in time

[steve.mandzij]

Extreme-E to start testing its new car in June. The car runs on Hydrogen and the new class will be called Extreme-H. Serie's owner dont know if its going to be a totally new Championship or something to compete together with the Electric Trucks. But... Anyway... Is the sport "moving forward" while I feel WRC is stuck in time

nobody cares about extreme e, frankly

[fiscorpun]

nobody cares about extreme e, frankly

I agree with you... HOWEEEEVER:
Hummer, Cupra, McLaren, Michael Andretti, Loeb, Nassr, Sainz, Hamilton, Button, Rosberg, Kristofferson, Tanner Foust, Emma..... What we have here in WRC? Ford pretending they have a team? At this point nobody care about WRC eithet, mate. But E-E is looking forward, WRC became DirtFish followers saying WE NEED RALLY2+

[Franky]

If WRC is niche, then Extreme-E is a micro niche of a niche.

[Duvel]

at one point I would also have supported a Rally2+ thing but it's clear neither FIA nor the teams want that. plus, it would be messing with a formula that is working fine as things stand now, and making it the top class and/or hybrid would increase the costs that make it "accessible".

i liked Richard Millener's thoughts on the matter

I liked the toughts off Millener also!

My personal thougts would be that they let each manufacturor use the power suply they wont to promote. Than think of a decent way to arrange BOP! A championship where different kinds of energys are used would be a new thing. And each manufacturor could promote there system. Difficult to work out, i know but imagine a championship where EV's compete whit combustion, hybrid and hydrogen cars.

Al systems being build now, in one championship. Each brand can promote to be champion, like brand A is champ in total (lets say whit hybrid), and brand B can still be saying we are the champs in hydrogen wrc.. Other one is best Electric car;;


Than the Millener thougts where several private teams build own cars, whit power suply system they can buy from manu teams.

[bwallace]

Ain't they do" open test " in otepaa rally estonia with tanak and serderidis one week bedore rally sweden ??

[AnttiL]

My personal thougts would be that they let each manufacturor use the power suply they wont to promote. Than think of a decent way to arrange BOP! A championship where different kinds of energys are used would be a new thing. And each manufacturor could promote there system. Difficult to work out, i know but imagine a championship where EV's compete whit combustion, hybrid and hydrogen cars.

I like this idea, although I know it could lead into problems with one being superior and requiring separate safety systems for each power source

[focus206]

One has to be careful playing with BoP. Ideally, it should level the field a bit, like it does in GT World Challenge. But in FIA championships such as WEC and WTCR it's often horrible, and it swings considerable advantages each round. For example in WEC, it often led to Ferrari being clearly the better car in rounds 1, 3, 5 etc. and Porsche being clearly the better car in rounds 2, 4, 6 etc.