M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

**becher** · 23rd January 2023, 16:37

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Strange how happy Loeb was with the Puma in Monte 2022 straight out of the box. And he made literally no set-up changes at all during the rally...

Loeb likes understeer if i remember correctly.

**macebig** · 23rd January 2023, 18:39

Suggesting the Puma can't go is foolish. Loeb was consistently at the front last year, and by his own admission Tanak pushed 100% only at the PS and matched the Toyotas. They need to clamp down on reliability and the package is a contender, no doubt.

**cali** · 23rd January 2023, 18:47

Originally Posted by macebig

Suggesting the Puma can't go is foolish. Loeb was consistently at the front last year, and by his own admission Tanak pushed 100% only at the PS and matched the Toyotas. They need to clamp down on reliability and the package is a contender, no doubt.

Not at the current state. Why everybody's yacking about last years Monte which was 1) ran in different conditions 2) TGR & HMSG have been really madly developing their cars. M-Sport hasn't used any major jokers so far. Just look at the vids from 2022 tarmac rounds (especially Ypres crashes) and you will see what's wrong with the cars handling. Breen's crashes were not just unprovoked. 3) Loeb likes understeer

Not really a rocket science now isn't it

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**manthey** · 23rd January 2023, 19:04

Did Loeb like understeer because he can find with it the limit of the car and so adjust the exit corner with the rear?

**cali** · 23rd January 2023, 20:10

Originally Posted by manthey

Did Loeb like understeer because he can find with it the limit of the car and so adjust the exit corner with the rear?

That's my understanding of it yes, if simply put

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**becher** · 23rd January 2023, 21:06

Originally Posted by manthey

Did Loeb like understeer because he can find with it the limit of the car and so adjust the exit corner with the rear?

I believe so, actually quite similar to Latvala yet they are visually very different.

**AndyRAC** · 24th January 2023, 08:45

Originally Posted by manthey

Did Loeb like understeer because he can find with it the limit of the car and so adjust the exit corner with the rear?

Very much like Rohrl; Tony Fall sat in with him and couldn't get his head around how much understeer he could handle.....And both were useful on circuits.....

**HKSjbg** · 24th January 2023, 09:26

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/tanak...n-preparation/

**flat_right** · 24th January 2023, 09:37

Originally Posted by flat_right

Now that Monte is basically over for M-Sport, has anyone else heard this rumor that M-Sport will come to Otepää's Winter Rally and use it as PET for Sweden? Or it is too late for that?

Then the rumor was true. Nice!