[WRC] 91e Rallye Automobile Monte-Carlo (16-22 January 2023)

[doubled1978]

Keep your stupid political ideas out of sport. We just want to see good drivers drive fast.

I deleted a response to this as it lowered myself to the level of this guy.
I think he thought he was being funny…..

[doubled1978]

yeah agreed, the understeer was horrible in the last section. Lost the stage win there i think

but still, there is a lot of potential IMO

For sure, I am sure there is potential in there…I just hope they can find it.

[denkimi]

Sorry for continuing this offtopic, but I need to say that this statement is not less stupid than the original one. Take into account that lifes maybe really affected by this "side topics". If your's is not, good, but there are others who's life is.

What lives are affected by gryazin driving here?

I have had enough of the constant propaganda and blind hate being stirred from both sides. Hate putin or zelensky all you want, but don't direct your hate to people who have nothing to do with it.

[focus206]

Another perfect rally for Kalle, there was no need to go and try catch Ogier.
Toyota seems much better than the others on asphalt, Kalle was trashing everyone on gravel last year and good luck beating him in Sweden, Finland and Estonia... I know many say it's still early, but what could possibly happen to even bring up a fight for the championship? Can't imagine anything realistic, unfortunately.

[mknight]

What lives are affected by gryazin driving here?

.

In case Skoda Auto does some repercussions towards Skoda Motorsport your rally watching will get directly affected. In 2016 VW had invested multiple tens of millions of euros into new car and were winning everything. Yet VAG leadership pulled the plug.

Also the likehood of new manus joining might just have reduced.

"Rallyworld" is not its own reality.

[Rallyper]

Oliver wins PS in WRC2 and finishes 2:18 after Gryazin, with one puncture and one off loosing some 3:30...

[cali]

Oliver wins PS in WRC2 and finishes 2:18 after Gryazin, with one puncture and one off loosing some 3:30...

Overall good rally for Oliver

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[meh]

What lives are affected by gryazin driving here?

I have had enough of the constant propaganda and blind hate being stirred from both sides. Hate putin or zelensky all you want, but don't direct your hate to people who have nothing to do with it.

If you found hate from my lines, I recommend to re-read them. Please use pragmatic reading.

I just try to point out, that people have different point of view to the war topic. This is also pointed out as Skoda PR actually can be complicated - why there is russian in the team if in other sport disciplines they are not allowed to compete.

Grazin seems nice guy without showing any shitty attitude. Personally I don't have any problem with him.

What people have questioned here about Grazin - what is his point of view at the war. If he publically supports the war (as I don't know his official statement, read this question as theoretical one) - do you stand for your statement? Like it does not matter if he supports killing people and using questionable money for his rallying, it's only important he is fast? To make more extreme example - would you say the same for serial killers, pedophiles etc, it's just important that they are fast? And in that situation - if things go wrong - what PR it makes to WRC or rally-sport in general?

> What lives are affected by gryazin driving here?

If your life happens to be affected by the war, and (theoratically) there is some guy who is supporting the government who is the agressor, it really matters what kind of feelings it creates towards sport.

My point is - it actually matters, who is competing, from where they get finances and what they promote.

[meh]

On the rally topic - Ogier lead from 1st stage till the finish.

[Eli]

On the rally topic - Ogier lead from 1st stage till the finish.

Not really surprising given there was no Loeb and this i20 for the time being isn’t as nimble as the previous gen car, you could see it either had understeer, or tail happy oversteer and sometimes one after the other, as much as M-Sport has a lot of work to do, at least they have Tänak who knows how to set up the car.