Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

**WRCStan** · 3rd January 2023, 16:31

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Isn´t it they are also dare devils outside their sport, when they instead could ease down a bit? Schumacher, McRae and now Block...

Not easily, it's just part of who they are that brought them into the sport and got them noticed in the first place.

Ken without doubt enjoyed what he did - rallying more than some works drivers. For example doing more donuts than necessary in Barcelona was just to spread the enjoyment he got instead of comparing times. A true petrolhead too, responsible for some great builds. Who else was going to be building and rallying an Escort Cosworth!?

Very sad news.

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 4th January 2023, 09:15

I've heard of many fatal accidents with forms of off-roading sport like quad bikes, mountain bikes, scramblers and skidoo's.

Rallying deaths are relatively rare but bring much negative pressto the sport whereas other sports get away with it...

**AnttiL** · 4th January 2023, 09:42

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

I've heard of many fatal accidents with forms of off-roading sport like quad bikes, mountain bikes, scramblers and skidoo's.

Rallying deaths are relatively rare but bring much negative pressto the sport whereas other sports get away with it...

I don't mean to comment on Block's incident, but it's good to distinguish accidents in official sports and just hobby riding.

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 4th January 2023, 11:10

I hope Oliver Solberg is careful on his snowmobile...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cm69N...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

**AnttiL** · 4th January 2023, 12:26

Any Swedish guys have old Rally Sweden maps / spectator guides or know someone who could have them?

I made this based on a video but it's not 100% right, would like to get some details. The whole area is likely changed a bit since...

https://www.rally-maps.com/Internati...993/Kalvholmen

https://youtu.be/twjqwXUmNZg?t=575

Also some years of Rally Sweden are missing altogether from rally-maps so overall maps from those years would be appreciated as well. Namely 2002, 2001, 1999, 1996, 1995, 1992, 1991 and 1988. And also the itinerary of 1987 is missing.

**Rallyper** · 4th January 2023, 15:02

Originally Posted by AnttiL

Any Swedish guys have old Rally Sweden maps / spectator guides or know someone who could have them?

I made this based on a video but it's not 100% right, would like to get some details. The whole area is likely changed a bit since...

https://www.rally-maps.com/Internati...993/Kalvholmen

https://youtu.be/twjqwXUmNZg?t=575

Also some years of Rally Sweden are missing altogether from rally-maps so overall maps from those years would be appreciated as well. Namely 2002, 2001, 1999, 1996, 1995, 1992, 1991 and 1988. And also the itinerary of 1987 is missing.

I will take a look in my archive...

**Steve Boyd** · 5th January 2023, 00:40

Originally Posted by Rallyper

I will take a look in my archive...

One of the things I like about this place.
People (geeks?) like me with personal archives of rally history that are happy to share with anyone putting together collections of information that the world can see.

**AnttiL** · 5th January 2023, 07:07

Originally Posted by Steve Boyd

One of the things I like about this place.
People (geeks?) like me with personal archives of rally history that are happy to share with anyone putting together collections of information that the world can see.

Indeed! And not just this place but the rallying community in general. Although there's also some examples of people who have a big collection of paper maps unwilling to share anything to the digital world, but luckily it's a small minority.

**Rallyper** · 5th January 2023, 11:56

Originally Posted by AnttiL

Any Swedish guys have old Rally Sweden maps / spectator guides or know someone who could have them?

I made this based on a video but it's not 100% right, would like to get some details. The whole area is likely changed a bit since...

https://www.rally-maps.com/Internati...993/Kalvholmen

https://youtu.be/twjqwXUmNZg?t=575

Also some years of Rally Sweden are missing altogether from rally-maps so overall maps from those years would be appreciated as well. Namely 2002, 2001, 1999, 1996, 1995, 1992, 1991 and 1988. And also the itinerary of 1987 is missing.

I´ve found overall maps from 1996 and 2001. Separate stagemaps from Rally Guide from 1988, 1999 and 2002. Have to dig deeper, but it´s cold in the storage...
How do you like to have the material. Can I just take photos?

**totbalazs** · 5th January 2023, 13:13

hi guys.
i managed to get onto a real R2 car after 30.000 km-s played in Richard Burns Rally.
And i would like to share the onboard - if you have some free time, check it and enjoy. I really did. Its a fckng drug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQrQcD5rjR0

happy new jear