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    I don't see the point of combining rallycross with WRC and ERC. I won't watch it, why should I be paying for it?

    I only want 2/3 of what they're offering. Therefore, I'll probably go for the 7x monthly pass option instead of the annual subscription I've had since it was launched.

    It's worse the other way round though. If you only want to watch rallycross, why should you have to pay for a service mostly showing something you aren't bothered about?

    This feels like a mistake.

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    I am not convinced, unfortunately. Following wrc since late 90th, seen all the struggles and success with getting content more visible in media etc; but today, when I watch WRC+, there is some feeling of "broken LP player"; idea is good, but it has become boring - all the interviews are the same, contextual packaging repeats again, again and again - like new Groundhog Phil day over and over again. And this is not about people, but production and variety of the content. For comparison F1 TV feels "more live" and that you get more for the same money. Of course, i will have the new Rally TV, but I would really hope they will hire some new blood that can figure out how to pack it all in more attractive way.

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    I couldn't agree more Anders. It has become pretty stale even for us hardcore fans and I hope they take the 'RallyTV' launch as an opportunity for a big overhaul.

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    Most likely it's just repackaging the same stuff, nothing else.
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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    I just don't understand why they're "repacking", like Franky correctly said, a product which is expensive for a "niche" sport, instead of lowering their requests for TV rights. They ask a lot of money for a bunch of stages on pay-TV, satellite broadcasters.

    It's ok to work and develop a digital platform for online contents, I'm fine with it. But they should work on get as much as FTA channels to showcase the WRC to a wider audience, they need to be more aggressive in this market.

    My idea would be more straightforward on this point:
    - 2 stages pack (one on Saturday afternoon and the Power Stage on Sunday, basically like what they did with Red Bull TV in the past) on free-to-air big channels, involving them with very cheap TV rights to be more attractive.
    - 7 stages pack (1 Thursday, 2 Fri, 2 Sat, 2 Sun) for the pay-tv which has now the world feed stages.
    - All Live for selected broadcasters (Cosmote, BT Sport, Canal+, etc.)

    They would get a much wider exposure and have benefits on both the WRC Promoter (this would mean more global partners jumping in) and the teams (more title sponsors getting a better value-for-money exposure).

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    Quote Originally Posted by typhoon View Post
    I just don't understand why they're "repacking", like Franky correctly said, a product which is expensive for a "niche" sport, instead of lowering their requests for TV rights. They ask a lot of money for a bunch of stages on pay-TV, satellite broadcasters.

    It's ok to work and develop a digital platform for online contents, I'm fine with it. But they should work on get as much as FTA channels to showcase the WRC to a wider audience, they need to be more aggressive in this market.

    My idea would be more straightforward on this point:
    - 2 stages pack (one on Saturday afternoon and the Power Stage on Sunday, basically like what they did with Red Bull TV in the past) on free-to-air big channels, involving them with very cheap TV rights to be more attractive.
    - 7 stages pack (1 Thursday, 2 Fri, 2 Sat, 2 Sun) for the pay-tv which has now the world feed stages.
    - All Live for selected broadcasters (Cosmote, BT Sport, Canal+, etc.)

    They would get a much wider exposure and have benefits on both the WRC Promoter (this would mean more global partners jumping in) and the teams (more title sponsors getting a better value-for-money exposure).
    I can see you're a forum member since 2006, so can assume you are an adult.

    Monday morning, you tell your boss/customers you will work for free from now on if that's how the world works.
    Last edited by WRCStan; 3rd December 2022 at 13:26. Reason: was too rude

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    Quote Originally Posted by typhoon View Post

    My idea would be more straightforward on this point:
    - 2 stages pack (one on Saturday afternoon and the Power Stage on Sunday, basically like what they did with Red Bull TV in the past) on free-to-air big channels, involving them with very cheap TV rights to be more attractive.
    - 7 stages pack (1 Thursday, 2 Fri, 2 Sat, 2 Sun) for the pay-tv which has now the world feed stages.
    - All Live for selected broadcasters (Cosmote, BT Sport, Canal+, etc.)
    Isn't this what they do right now? In Finland we had YLE doing the "TV stages and highlights" package, CMore with All Live and I've heard some Estonian TV Company has provided a package with "some All live stages but not all"

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    Speaking for the UK, there is no FTA sports show for general sport like we had in the past (eg. Grandstand, World of Sport). Any live sport has to be a standalone programme which is on for 2-3 hours or more (ie. some football games, rugby, tennis, boxing bills).

    A single daily stage of a WRC rally wouldnt be long enough and wouldnt tell any story for the average viewer. And TBH any serious sports fan has long switched to pay-TV like Sky & BT anyway.

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    hope get on board Ingrassia, an excellent commentator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Isn't this what they do right now? In Finland we had YLE doing the "TV stages and highlights" package, CMore with All Live and I've heard some Estonian TV Company has provided a package with "some All live stages but not all"
    The point is that they need to make the WRC popular to the average Joe on TV. In Italy, for example, they're getting 100k viewers on subscription-based Sky Sports, but they have to get at least 1 million viewers to have the sponsors interested in putting some good money on the sport. So go on free-to-air RAI Sport, which got 500k viewers when the WRC was shown live. Selling highlights to be shown at 11pm won't make the sport popular and the whole won't get any benefit on the long term.

    What I wanna say is that, being a big company, I won't be interested in putting 30 million euros to be a title sponsor in a WRC team if I know that my brand will be seen by "few" people on a satellite channel. And this is the case for many key countries.

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