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    Quote Originally Posted by skarderud View Post
    Then its time to skip rally1, and have rally2 as top class.

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    No manufacturers means no Promoter, which could be great, but with even only Toyota we'd see Promoter backing a second entry first. It would be shit but more likely than Rally2 as Toyota don't look like going anywhere.

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    WRC gets a lot of money from Sardinia. The event is backed by the Sardinian tourism authority with almost 1 million euro, plus 200k euros from Alghero City council and about the same money by Alghero's tourism authority. If we consider the private sponsors, you can peek also Qatar's hotels (Smeralda Holding) and you can easily understand why Sardinia can't be actually touched. Don't forget that Italian ASN's President is Angelo Sticchi Damiani, a man that has a great lobby power within the FIA. All that said to underline how Sardinia is strongly backed both on a commercial and sporting pov.

    Regarding the event itself, moving the Service Park to Alghero brought a lot of people and tourists to the service park, which was a complaint from the teams in the years back in Olbia. Another "past issue" was the ferry boat cost, which is now 100% free of charge for all the teams and the spectators got advantage of it with the discounts offered by the sponsor (Grimaldi Lines) both from Genoa, Livorno and Barcelona. And Alghero-Olbia are 2 airports with plenty of EasyJet-Ryanair low-cost flights.

    Generally Sardinia is a powerhouse in getting worldwide events: other than WRC they got Extreme E, Motocross MXGP, F1H2O and the Aquabike world cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1398...57719274545248

    Apparently this is the WRC calendar for 2023 that will be presented officially next week in the WMSC meeting, know this was a long time coming but still annoyed by the fact we have Saudi Arabia as the season finale and not have NZ instead (in the calendar, not as season finale), or even Australia for that matter (again doesn't have to be season finale).
    Having events like NZ or Australia doesn't give any return for investment for the Manufacturers and for the WRC itself.
    They are limited markets for the Manufacturers, the companies doesn't invest in funding neither drivers programmes nor the championship itself, and it's quite expensive travel to justify it at the Board meetings.

    The difference with rallies like NZ/AU and Japan for example, it's just that. Japan brings you a Manufacturer and two global partners. I'm quite sure that Saudi Arabia will pay the bill to bring the teams for free down there and if the Promoter is smart enough, can get a global partner for the championship as well (like Aramco or their new brand "Sabic").

    For 2024 I would ditch easily Croatia to bring back Catalunya and then Estonia in favour of the US-based event between Atlanta and Nashville.

    Have to mention that having 3 events in about the same timezone would boost a lot the tv-rights sales in North and South America. This would bring a lot of visibility for the manufacturers as well and boost their stay in the series (plus it might attract new ones).

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    Quote Originally Posted by typhoon View Post
    I'm quite sure that Saudi Arabia will pay the bill to bring the teams for free down there and if the Promoter is smart enough, can get a global partner for the championship as well (like Aramco or their new brand "Sabic").
    Near enough there: https://www.p1fuels.com/aramco-and-p...ainable-fuels/

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    Quote Originally Posted by typhoon View Post
    Having events like NZ or Australia doesn't give any return for investment for the Manufacturers and for the WRC itself.
    They are limited markets for the Manufacturers, the companies doesn't invest in funding neither drivers programmes nor the championship itself, and it's quite expensive travel to justify it at the Board meetings.

    The difference with rallies like NZ/AU and Japan for example, it's just that. Japan brings you a Manufacturer and two global partners. I'm quite sure that Saudi Arabia will pay the bill to bring the teams for free down there and if the Promoter is smart enough, can get a global partner for the championship as well (like Aramco or their new brand "Sabic").

    For 2024 I would ditch easily Croatia to bring back Catalunya and then Estonia in favour of the US-based event between Atlanta and Nashville.

    Have to mention that having 3 events in about the same timezone would boost a lot the tv-rights sales in North and South America. This would bring a lot of visibility for the manufacturers as well and boost their stay in the series (plus it might attract new ones).
    Australia is one of the biggest markets for Toyota, Hyundai and Ford....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    Australia is one of the biggest markets for Toyota, Hyundai and Ford....
    australia is a 25 million country... there are villages in asia with larger markets than that 3rd world prison colony

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOT View Post
    australia is a 25 million country... there are villages in asia with larger markets than that 3rd world prison colony
    Not many of those villages buy over 1 million new cars a year.

    Usually second per capita car sales markets in the world.

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    If you're going purely on population size, and/ or car buying then you'd never go to Finland.......

    Fortunately, that isn't how events are chosen.....Well not yet......

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    Not many of those villages buy over 1 million new cars a year.

    Usually second per capita car sales markets in the world.
    still not enough... a village with 3 people each having 3 cars will be the per capita car sales market in the world.

    irrelevant country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    If you're going purely on population size, and/ or car buying then you'd never go to Finland.......

    Fortunately, that isn't how events are chosen.....Well not yet......
    yes you do because rally finland is an attractive event that gets publicity everywhere... winning rally finland or acropolis or other benchmark events is an advertisement by itself for a company.

    plus that person from some irrelevant country used market size as an advantage, i did not

    nobody cares about australia and nobody ever will.

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