Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

[lmmjvss]

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Dad came to visit me using this shirt haha Out of nothing. I thought its really cool. Never seen this one

[Sal yet again]

General question about rally organisation in your respective countries be it a local level or up to WRC. Are rallies organised by volunteers giving up their free time to arrange road closures and insurance etc or do clubs or motorsport bodies employ people to do the job on a paid basis? Bit of an issue in the UK just now which is seeing events cancelled or stopping altogether as more and more time is being asked of less and less people who do the "job" on a voluntary basis. Not many younger people stepping up to help so rallies are biting the dust. This in turn is leading to even less interest in the media so less and less commercial interest as a result.

[fiscorpun]

In Europe theres the WRC, in "America" they have BAJA.
In Europe theres Rallycross, In America theres Short Course racing with 4wd 900HP super trucks
If someone here doesnt know this thing, check it out this quick clip from last
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVRiJJc7J2E

[WRCStan]

General question about rally organisation in your respective countries be it a local level or up to WRC. Are rallies organised by volunteers giving up their free time to arrange road closures and insurance etc or do clubs or motorsport bodies employ people to do the job on a paid basis? Bit of an issue in the UK just now which is seeing events cancelled or stopping altogether as more and more time is being asked of less and less people who do the "job" on a voluntary basis. Not many younger people stepping up to help so rallies are biting the dust. This in turn is leading to even less interest in the media so less and less commercial interest as a result.

Nobody seeing the business opportunity then?

Please don't blame the young because times have changed.

[J4MIE]

One of the organisers of a closed road event in the UK earlier this year told me that they had put in 800 hours of their own time to get the event running.

That is completely unsustainable.

[WRCStan]

One of the organisers of a closed road event in the UK earlier this year told me that they had put in 800 hours of their own time to get the event running.

That is completely unsustainable.

You don't have to answer this but scale-wise, if it was a music festival, would they be getting paid?

[Steve Boyd]

You don't have to answer this but scale-wise, if it was a music festival, would they be getting paid?

If it was a music festival the spectators would be paying a very significant sum for watching, leaving enough for the promotors and participants to be handsomely paid. Sadly for the organisers and competitors, rallying doesn't work that way.

[AndyRAC]

In the UK at nearly all events, spectators 'pay to park' - and money quite often goes to local charities, etc Organising clubs get virtually nothing. From memory, only RallyGB (and IRC Rally Scotland) charges/charged to spectate; and then that means they have to provide facilities, etc for spectators....which is a costly business. Which is the reason most events charge you to park your car - there aren't the same requirements for spectators. As already said, most events are run by volunteers, and they simply don't have the time/resources to do this.

I agree with Sal, I would love to know how other countries operate....I dare say it's different.

[WRCStan]

I agree with Sal, I would love to know how other countries operate....I dare say it's different.

And any role the state and authority play: in eg. France and Spain, their (democratic) authorities have directives set by the ministry of sport and receive state funding. Does any of that trickle down to support organisers?

[the sniper]

I never really understood why UK organising clubs don't keep the spectator parking money for themselves. Okay, it's not much but it's something.