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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Why you guys always right away predict tensions?

    He was teammates with Ogier with no tensions, then people predicted he wouldn’t get along with Neuville. Yeah we are seeing some niggling now between them but for two years there was nothing.
    Solid point! Both will have one title by then and the rest is just a bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flat_right View Post
    I just can't see that happening. Why would Toyota make things more complicated for themselves? They have a clear nr 1 and very solid nr 2. With Tänak they would get Hamilton vs Rosberg situation and this would mean tensions within the team.
    Because Akio is a fan of Ott's talent

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    Quote Originally Posted by flat_right View Post
    Use Breen's money to ask Leob to make more rounds?
    If there is one guy who you can not get driving by just giving (more) money, it's Loeb. He is doing it for fun till he find it to be fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Why you guys always right away predict tensions?

    He was teammates with Ogier with no tensions, then people predicted he wouldn’t get along with Neuville. Yeah we are seeing some niggling now between them but for two years there was nothing.
    ... Tänak left from M-Sport because he was tired to be number 2 (getting team-orders, new parts later etc)
    ... Tänak and Neuville manage it, because they have common enemy (not working car, lack of team structure) etc - I think it would be completely different story when they both could be in reachable distance from World Title

    and this is all logical - they are competitors, they all are there for winning titles not being wingmans for friends for someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Why you guys always right away predict tensions?

    He was teammates with Ogier with no tensions, then people predicted he wouldn’t get along with Neuville. Yeah we are seeing some niggling now between them but for two years there was nothing.
    because now his status changed a lot from ogier time. that time ott was nowhere near asking priority for the development of the car, especially comparing his carreer at that point vs ogier. now the situation is very different.
    also, consider this: for the past years set up of the car could be opposite way between drivers (in term of components too). now some parts as to be the same on every car (ie around the differential). so teams needs to prioritize a choice.
    and magically arguing appears in hiunday too, as well as more "issues" related to set ups or diffs (like solberg crashing on neuville parts...)

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    Evans has a contract for next season. Yes he has been underwhelming a little bit compared to last 2 yrs, but the season could've been a lot different had he not chucked away the lead in Monte and a podium in Sweden. He was immediately up against it and perhaps lost a little confidence.

    He doesn't cause trouble, he will rack up points and it seems there is a perfect dynamic in that Toyota team. I don't think 3 championship challengers can work in 1 team - so don't see why Toyota would bother adding Tanak alongside Kalle and Evans.

    If Evans feels like Kalle is about to become a dominant force like Ogier did to Latvala at VW, then maybe Evans looks to go back to Msport. But then surely beating Kalle in the same car is easier than doing it at Msport considering Msports history of development struggles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    Evans has a contract for next season. Yes he has been underwhelming a little bit compared to last 2 yrs, but the season could've been a lot different had he not chucked away the lead in Monte and a podium in Sweden. He was immediately up against it and perhaps lost a little confidence.

    He doesn't cause trouble, he will rack up points and it seems there is a perfect dynamic in that Toyota team. I don't think 3 championship challengers can work in 1 team - so don't see why Toyota would bother adding Tanak alongside Kalle and Evans.

    If Evans feels like Kalle is about to become a dominant force like Ogier did to Latvala at VW, then maybe Evans looks to go back to Msport. But then surely beating Kalle in the same car is easier than doing it at Msport considering Msports history of development struggles.
    Personally I would also keep current driver lineups but some whispers here and there are telling otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    Personally I would also keep current driver lineups but some whispers here and there are telling otherwise.

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    I want to watch three teams fighting at least for podiums next year, so I would totally not keep current lineups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    I want to watch three teams fighting at least for podiums next year, so I would totally not keep current lineups.
    In a real world M-Sport doesn't have the finances to hire any of those 5 drivers from other teams. Lappi also confirmed that it's either TGR or nothing. Keep dreaming. Only real moves come from those 2 teams.

    EDIT, so you can't twist my words this was said in a condition that if I was a team manager at TGR. Ideally I would also like to have more performance and better drivers at M-Sport but I just cannot see this happening.

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    Wilson said last year they had money for top driver. Millener said 2 weeks ago they would use money to get title contender but sadly none are available. Whether we believe them or not is another matter.

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    For the championship’s sake I’d rather have Tänak join M-Sport (alongside Breen for next season at least) & that way we have 3 title contenders in 3 different teams like we had back in 2019, realistically though, M-Sport would need to pull a rabbit out of their hat to make it happen.
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