Rally Croatia 2022

[PLuto]

Yes, lot of issues were with broken rims which caused the punctures. And it was not about so much cutting than usual or lower tyre pressure like usual... Pirelli wet tyres are working completely different than Michelin ones. Also in mixed conditions Pirelli tyres are different than Michelin.

[seb_sh]

So what is the problem then. Is it really the tyres simply can't handle cuts? Genuine question. Seems a bit too easy to blame the tyres for everything.

[EstWRC]

There were total of 18 punctures in this event for Rally1 cars.

That’s too much IMO.

Breen was the only one who didn’t have, all the others did

[Rallyper]

So what is the problem then. Is it really the tyres simply can't handle cuts? Genuine question. Seems a bit too easy to blame the tyres for everything.

Maybe the tyres can´t handle drivers misusing them. If construction limits says one thing and the user wants it to work out of the construction limits the outcome can only be failure. That´s a common rule for any mechanical gizmos.

[dimviii]

They can explain all they want.....Rally cars have been cutting on Tarmac events for years, I don't recall so many issues.

i am pretty sure you still havent read the article.

The rain tire is always a difficult one because when it gets wet the drivers tend to go more off the road, and when they go more off the road they bring more s*** and then they expose more kerbs and more stones, and they make their own opportunities to get punctures,” he told DirtFish.

“It then drives you to say a wet tire should be stronger, but the way a wet tire picks up its grip is by being softer and if you make it stronger it doesn’t naturally get softer.

“We know that it works quite well as a wet tire when you’re on Tarmac. When you’re on a road that’s so narrow that we have here and you’re driven to go off the road so much… I mean when you see the stages on TV now they look more like gravel stages than Tarmac stages, so it’s difficult to say there’s a big problem when you’re driving a Tarmac car on a gravel stage basically.

more easy to understand...
a wet tyre doesnt have the same carcass as the dry tarmac tyres.
If you try to make a wet tyre with same carcass as a dry tarmac tyre,you will have the same durable tyre,but it will be almost undrivable at wet conditions.You are going to listen from drivers that is unpredictable etc.

wet tyre is not only the cuts and softer rubber.Needs to have a softer carcass so it will be more predictable at wet conditions where the grip changes very easy,and tyre has to ''warn'' the driver when grip is going to break.

[dimviii]

So what is the problem then. Is it really the tyres simply can't handle cuts? Genuine question. Seems a bit too easy to blame the tyres for everything.

yes a wet tyre is not the same structure as a dry tyre, so you can not cut as in other tarmac rallies with dry tyres.
always wet tyres were like that.

[dimviii]

There were total of 18 punctures in this event for Rally1 cars.

That’s too much IMO.

Breen was the only one who didn’t have, all the others did

how many of them were with broken rims? We know from article that first day all 8 punctures were with broken rims.

[dimviii]

Yes, lot of issues were with broken rims which caused the punctures. And it was not about so much cutting than usual or lower tyre pressure like usual... Pirelli wet tyres are working completely different than Michelin ones. Also in mixed conditions Pirelli tyres are different than Michelin.

we have to think also that drivers havent used to drive these wet tyres.

[TypeR]

[seb_sh]

If the tyre carcass is softer can the jumps also be a factor? Croatia has a lot of jumps for a tarmac rally.