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21st November 2021, 18:52 #41
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The problem is we all know unless something crazy happens like Perez pulling a "Bottas Torpedo" and taking out both Mercedes - it is all over with. Verstappen does not have the pace to compete with Hamilton. There is no great, wheel to wheel racing or anything. It's like it reverted back to 2020.
Whatever Mercedes has done to tweak their car is big (or did they just throw out a couple sandbags?).
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21st November 2021, 20:20 #42
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Well you could argue that if Hamilton wins the championship, he will owe bottas a big thank you ! The "torpedo" crash at the hungarian grand prix is the game changer here. Would Verstappen had finished 2nd or 3rd, (wich we could expect) he would enjoy a comfortable lead today ... Of course, bottas is not a dirty driver and this is just racing incident, but somehow bottas will go down in history as being indirectly the game changer in this championship !
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22nd November 2021, 03:28 #43
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22nd November 2021, 11:40 #44
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A 10 second timed penalty was Lewis punishment in Silverstone, I still think this was a racing incident where both could have given each other more room. Unlike Max in Brazil, Lewis didn't get away with anything. Both Silverstone and Hungary were all unintentional comings together that happen throughout the course of a year, unlike Max's professional foul in Monza where his little brain could have ended up killing Hamilton had things gone really wrong.
It turns out Mercedes didn't even have the Brazil engine in this weekend either, so Saudi Arabia should be an interesting one.
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22nd November 2021, 12:15 #45
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a penalty that didn't punish him the least. changing his front wing would have cost him way more than that.
if you put your adversery in the wall, and then get to repair your own damage under the safety car you have caused, you are not being punished.
just like the 5 place penalty in qatar didn't punish verstappen or the 5 place penalty in brazil didn't punished hamilton.
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22nd November 2021, 13:50 #46
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You are being punished if you are getting a ten second timed penalty. You're issue isn't that he didn't get punished, he did, your issue is that he got punished and still won the race. From that point of view you can argue that the penalty was lenient, I don't think it was or that there should have been any penalty, but to argue that he didn't get punished is nonsense, he just didn't get punished the way you wanted or thought he should.
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22nd November 2021, 13:52 #47
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22nd November 2021, 13:55 #48
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22nd November 2021, 17:00 #49
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Although it's pretty easy to find fault in Bottas, you can't really blame him if the CC slips away from Mercedes. As the #2 driver, all you can expect/ask from him is to beat the #2 of the opposition. Bottas is ahead of Perez by 13 points right now, so he's doing his job. Hamilton as the #1 needs to beat the opposition's #1. Right now he's trailing by 8 pts. So if Mercedes loses the CC, it might be more fitting to blame it on Hamilton.
Of course this could all change in the next two races, but as it stands, it's Hamilton that needs to do more.
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26th November 2021, 10:59 #50
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I disagree, as the number two driver, his job is firstly to beat his counterpart in the other team, but to also score enough points to help the team win the constructors championship. This is where Mercedes is feeling the heat. He is not scoring enough to keep Mercedes' hopes up. That would have to change in the next two races. We could say the same for Perez. He has to up his game to ensure he is taking as many points as possible from Bottas and where possible Hamilton.
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