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    As far as I understand the system will be able to be put in every R5/Rally 2 and will be mandatory from 2023. The first cars (Fiesta, 208 and DS3) will be out of homologation by then

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    No. You can't retrofit that to already produced cars. They were not designed for that.

    mknight is correct - the hybrids must be faster than the normal R5/Rally2 cars otherwise it can not work (uneless they go completely crazy and ban the normal R5/Rally2 which IMHO is not an option).
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    Thank you!

    I thought that the system was to everyone. It's really strange, however I guess Ford, Hyundai and Skoda are already developing their cars with the system in mind. Citroen is said to be making a new car for 2023

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingTuga View Post
    I thought that the system was to everyone.
    You can not design a car for incorporating something which doesn't exist even on paper at the time. The rules for hybrids didn't exist when Fiesta and all older cars were developped. New i20 N or Fabia IV are probably designed so that they can be modified into hybrid but hundreds of cars in use were not.
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    Last edited by Jarek Z; 22nd August 2021 at 19:33.
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    Why does it take organizers so long to update point standing after Rallys?
    are there times for protests and so on that prevent them to update?

    Anyway, they could call them provisional or unofficial until all is ok with the formalities.

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    ERC points system is very complex. Maybe they have problem with maths?
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    Not a spectacular debut of the new Hyundai i20 N Rally2 in ERC. Martin Vlcek was only 12th overall, 8 minutes behind the winner.

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    Never heard of the guy, is he good?

    It depends a lot of the driver.
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    I think he's not the best driver to judge car performance

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