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    Quote Originally Posted by Pršljen View Post
    Well, I'm far away from Zagreb now and that's why I'm super sensitive of possibility of bad organization and loss of slot in the 2022 calendar when I'll be able to come

    An epic battle awaits us on the PS. Lot of points to be decided, maybe Tanak will go flat out to damage Toyota's result, maybe Toyota will have some strategy of securing the 1-2.
    i would be surprised if Ott gets any points at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pršljen View Post
    Of course. And BMW wasn't speeding, that was wide multilane avenue, not some small two way road.
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    On a fun note... the incident of Ogier and the policeman is a principle example of why the WRC shall not be held in USA
    In the States - he would have been pushed off the road with shot tyres, pulled out of the car, tazed and sent to prison losing 25p would be the least problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by rage82 View Post
    And there was probably a bus lane( because there was a bus stop) and you shouldn't be driving in the bus lane.
    There are no bus-lane signs on the road, moreover it was on Sunday. At least here in Prague majority of bus-lanes are free to use on Sunday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage82 View Post
    And there was probably a bus lane( because there was a bus stop) and you shouldn't be driving in the bus lane.

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    That's not bus lane even though the bus stop is there. BMW was driving correctly.

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    I understand that some people want to defend Ogier but the accident was clearly his mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pršljen View Post
    What are you talking about? What is wrong with the organization? Is their fault that Ogier acts like a child? And how would you control the spectators? Bear in mind that this is not some remote forest in northern Finland, it's backyard of the capital and area with more than million inhabitants.
    The optics if police somehow affects the result with uncessary action (for example putting Ogier in jail just before the PS). Will in the end affect how the rally is viewed.

    There have been lots of rallies run with close to no spectators visible. ERC rally Roma or Monza last year had like 1/100th the amount og people.

    The countries obviously set the rules themselves. But then there is the contrast between rules and actual situation. How will crowd control work if the rally is "open" and you get 2-3 times more people than now? Maybe perfectly..maybe not.

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    Incredible behavior by Ogier. If this was done by random WRC3 driver, he'd probably get DQ for causing an accident & disobeying police, and then his license revoked. But it's Ogier, he might just get a slap on the back of one hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    The optics if police somehow affects the result with uncessary action (for example putting Ogier in jail just before the PS). Will in the end affect how the rally is viewed.

    There have been lots of rallies run with close to no spectators visible. ERC rally Roma or Monza last year had like 1/100th the amount og people.

    The countries obviously set the rules themselves. But then there is the contrast between rules and actual situation. How will crowd control work if the rally is "open" and you get 2-3 times more people than now? Maybe perfectly..maybe not.
    Well, we don't know why Ogier left and why police wanted him to stop. Of course it will not affect Ogier's rally but we'll see what they'll do afterwards. Laws and rules are laws and rules.

    As I mentioned, COVIS restrictions in Croatia are very liberal and people are very sensitive about lockdowns and any kind of movement restrictions. I don't see way of stopping them from spectating.

    If FIA finds it problematic for the rally's future than they are shooting in their own foot. WRC just grew immensely in Croatia and people enjoy it - and then you give the rally a thumbs down because they do, only because it was against the spectating rules?

    Hopefully it won't happen.

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    Another big moment of Gryazin from SS15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctGRtBQ9cHg
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pršljen View Post
    That's not bus lane even though the bus stop is there. BMW was driving correctly.
    Ok, it was just a guess.

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