[WRC] Monza Rally 2020

**seb_sh** · 6th December 2020, 21:19

Guys consider that it was a short year, in this case exceptions like Sordo's win in Sardinia weight more.

**dimviii** · 6th December 2020, 21:22

Originally Posted by AnttiL

Remember that the points don't come just through driver skill...the car must also perform and make it to the finish.

yes thats right,but did toyota had an unreliable car that this caused the lack of championships?
No for me. You cant have an unreliable car,and make 1-2 at drivers.

**mknight** · 6th December 2020, 21:46

Originally Posted by seb_sh

In the Loeb/Ogier era we didn't see many specialists because the regular drivers were so good everywhere. There are very few specialists nowadays that can beat the main drivers even with road position advantage and it doesn't happen always. I think Hyundai pushed to the max and got a bit lucky with their 3rd driver performances, I'm thinking of Sordo especially made max use of his road position in this short year.

In Loeb era you didn't see specialists mostly because you could only enter 2 cars that could score points, not 2 out of 3, this was also true for first few years with Ogier/VW if you recall.

I don't think there is a shortage of specialists, Østberg in Citroen 2018 was pretty much working as a specialist and it worked on fast gravel, Breen is essentially a specialist at this point too (based on his run at Citroen in 2017-18).

**EstWRC** · 7th December 2020, 07:14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pErc_uYNvbg

**mknight** · 7th December 2020, 15:50

Mikkelsen's video blog:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GmADNrQmhk

- he took 4 wet, 2 snow on Saturday morning, broke the gear on SS7 as reported and then put on crossed tires for SS10 unlike Solberg and Østberg (you can see that from outside vids too)
- doesn't say anything about tires for afternoon or about the whole snow situation, so I guess he didn't have 4 snow, but probably had 2 else he wouldn't post SS11 time like that. I haven't seen anywhere what Solberg had if it was 2 or 4 snow.

Fun bits:
- Marcus Gronholm advising in Swedish before final stage "drive in the middle of the road"
- O. Solbergs WRC3 podium plan: "Spray the Finns (Huttunen/Lukka) with champange!"

**dimviii** · 7th December 2020, 16:43

hahahaha

Evans 10/10
Neuville 3/10

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/colin...river-ratings/

**EstWRC** · 7th December 2020, 16:45

Just finished reading it

What a joke of a ratings

The guy has been smoking some good shit lately.

**dimviii** · 7th December 2020, 16:51

really?

Where was long-term team leader Thierry Neuville? Out of the rally after needlessly clipping a chicane and then drowning his engine as a result of the reduced speed he had to go at.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/what-...0-monza-rally/

**denkimi** · 7th December 2020, 17:08

Originally Posted by dimviii

really?

Where was long-term team leader Thierry Neuville? Out of the rally after needlessly clipping a chicane and then drowning his engine as a result of the reduced speed he had to go at.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/what-...0-monza-rally/

Giving evans 10/10 when all he had to do is not crash.
Neuville had to push to get any chance, evans just had to make it to the finish but couldn't do that.

So its just nonsense, but knowing where it comes from it's no surprise.