Route announced for Rally GB 2020!

[ProSpec]

Just spotted something in my database for Bransdale moor but it would have been from before 1980.

[the sniper]

Hopefully in time me and Antti will be to add something of interest regarding Yorkshire...

Some more for the Yorkshire list

Wykeham/ Troutsdale
Bickley/ Broad Head
Roppa/ Cowhouse Bank/ East Moor
Riccaldale
Deer Park/ Sproxton Moor

Are those all still in use/available to use? I read in the thread for last year’s R.A.C. Rally that at least Wykeham has ‘been lost’. Considering the National Breakdown/Talkland Rally up until the ‘90s used to go into 3+ hours of running I can only imagine there were much more forests available for rallying!

Varies. Taking some of those listed, Wykeham/Troutsdale is a near total loss, as seemingly a landslide (which I guess happened in the early 90s?) at the west end cut the track off as a through route. It's a shame as the bulk of the track is in really nice condition. This stage included a popular bowl like section on the east side, but I don't think the surface in that bit is in prime condition. Funnily enough I only went to have a look at the situation in Wykeham/Troutsdale just before the lockdown and took these photos:

Looking East towards the stage:


Looking West at the same spot:


Roppa/ Cowhouse Bank/ East Moor, Riccaldale and Deer Park/ Sproxton Moor have been used on the Riponian in recent years, though IIRC permission to use them may have been withdrawn by the owner a couple of years ago?

Bickley is another one I've walked. Parts are in really good condition, parts would very much need re-grading. A few pictures:

[the sniper]

Hopefully in time me and Antti will be to add something of interest regarding Yorkshire...

Big thanks to Antti for doing the plotting on this one, on maps I acquired last year: https://www.rally-maps.com/National-...own-Rally-1987

Relevant to today's news, I noticed that the 1986 International Welsh Rally maps have been uploaded too! I should add that I had nothing to do with this one: https://www.rally-maps.com/Internati...lsh-Rally-1986

I am intrigued to know what these radical changes might have been. Hopefully in time we'll be able to find out, though I doubt it'll be possible before the actual route is announced at least, so not to overshadow that. I am somewhat cautious though, as IMS/MSUK have been known to lean on hyperbole in the past. I do wonder if it could have been a return to the forests around Epynt, with the itinerary looking similar to 2011?

[HKSjbg]

Relevant to today's news, I noticed that the 1986 International Welsh Rally maps have been uploaded too! I should add that I had nothing to do with this one.

400km all crammed into one day! The mind boggles

[the sniper]

400km all crammed into one day! The mind boggles

Rally Maps actually shows that incorrectly, the vast majority of the rally would have taken part between Saturday morning and Sunday afternoon, so over two days. But it probably would have been a near continuous rally overnight in that era. I think I might have the itinerary for that one somewhere.

The itinerary for the National Breakdown are the accurate planned timings.

[AndyRAC]

I am somewhat cautious though, as IMS/MSUK have been known to lean on hyperbole in the past. I do wonder if it could have been a return to the forests around Epynt, with the itinerary looking similar to 2011?

Exactly, which is why I said what their 'radical', maybe different to what others mean by radical. Their BRC announcement a few years ago got people talking, then when it was revealed, it was.....nothing of the sort.

Epynt would be a welcome return; Halfway, Crychan, plus the option of some tarmac - and it can accomodate plenty of spectators, and other facilities.