Rally2-kit (ex R4) News & Results

[br21]

Depends on car and fuel map, but generally R5 peak torque is at 4500-5500, max power at some 5500-6500 (this is usually more flat curve).

Actually last week I attended comparison test between R4/N5/N4 organized in Finland before Itaralli. Important people from AKK Federation were there also, preparing for regulations for 2021. I can't go into details, but R4 was fastest. Other two cars similar times.

[Sulland]

Has the newest jokers for R5 gotten them close to 300 hp yet?
Are they also far above 400 nm in torque?

[br21]

Has the newest jokers for R5 gotten them close to 300 hp yet?
Are they also far above 400 nm in torque?

They are already for long time over 300hp on good fuels, and yes, they are way over 400Nm.

[TheFlyingTuga]

No, that may be true for DS3/208 but with the other cars the ideal power bend is lower. For example here You can see Weijs in Polo shifting up around 6000-6500 rpm. The launch control is at 7000 rpm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwwpCRR0vB4

Yeah, I know more about those two. For me the best engine is the Fabia, is the more round one, but I've only took rides in the first Gen cars

[Sulland]

They are already for long time over 300hp on good fuels, and yes, they are way over 400Nm.

Then it is safe to say that the difference per km SS will be closer to 1,5 sec, than 0,8 that is mentioned by Oreca.

But would like to see a top notch driver in an R4 to get real numbers.

[Rally Power]

Where in the RPM-band does the Oreca Kit engine pull the 263 hp and 382 Nm?

The R4 Kit seems to be using the last version of PSA’s EP6 stock engine, called FDT, which is also the engine chosen for the C3 R5. In road mode the FDT was already delivering 250-270hp under the 308GTi bonnet, which makes Oreca’s R4 max power figure to look a bit conservative (even considering that R4 engine tuning is quite limited) and the one announced by Citroen for the C3 an absolute joke (283hp, allegedly only 3 hp more than the previous CDT R5, developed 5 years before for the 208/DS3).

Anyway, power or torque figures aren’t R4 main problem; by promoting a mini R5 Kit, made and sold by a single supplier, the FIA wasn’t able to present an economic 4wd entry class, as everybody was asking; let’s hope Rally3 will be more successful doing that.

[vino_93]

Enrico Windisch made his first event with its A4 last week-end during Blaufränkischland Rallye. He ended 11th, after losing a few times during SS1.


South African team Rally Technic has now one (or two ? not sure) Hyundai i20 R4 : https://www.facebook.com/pg/rallytec...=page_internal

[Rally Power]

Gil Antunes Dacia will take a while to debut but it’s already looking nice:


Photo: https://pt-pt.facebook.com/domingos.sport/

[Zeakiwi2]

Oreca and F Delecour and co on livestream (brief translation. merci?)

https://www.facebook.com/OrecaStore/...ve_video_share

[Rally Power]

Sadly, R4 (like most national 4wd protos categories) continues failing to attract a larger number of competitors but now and then new cars come to surface; this A1 was built by ASM for a French client.


Photo: https://www.facebook.com/asmmotorsport/