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10th March 2020, 18:15 #341
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10th March 2020, 18:16 #342
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10th March 2020, 20:02 #343
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10th March 2020, 20:40 #344
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10th March 2020, 21:12 #345
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10th March 2020, 21:12 #346
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the steps forward are different.
during the group b era, teams would put their money on making more powerful engines or bigger aero, since there were big improvements to find there.
that created very powerful but difficult to handle cars.
nowadays with much technical limits, gains are very small so teams put much money in creating cars with better drivability. there are no big inventions anymore, they will never find something that will give them 50 extra hp anymore, all cars are almost identical. so they go and test 50 different kinds of shocks to see which one will give them a 0,1% advantage.
and racing has never had much to do with the current technology. you don't see water injection, anti-lag, water cooled brakes, inverted shocks, sequential gearboxes, lsd, spoilers, ... on ordinary cars.
it's all about marketing. the racing car has to have the logo, and preferably some looks in common with the car people can buy at their dealer. nothing more
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10th March 2020, 21:47 #347
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I remember the Tour de Corse in 1987.
Ragnotti's FWD Renault 11 Turbo with a 1.4 engine and tiny turbo was settiing times within just 1sec/km of the mega-powerful Group B's the year before.
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11th March 2020, 00:10 #348
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11th March 2020, 04:59 #349
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I could only find comparable times for a couple of stages. Most Corsica stages were changed because new regulations allowed them to be 30 km long at max. I don't have 1987 maps so I only assume they were similar.
1986 SS3 Petreto - Aullene 1 20.03 km Toivonen, Henri 12m 55s 93.04 km/h
1987 SS2 Petreto - Aullene 20.00 km Beguin, Bernard 13m 48s 86.96 km/h
Difference is 2.6 s/km
1986 SS6 Aullene - Zivaco 25.33 km Salonen, Timo 16m 19s 93.14 km/h
1987 SS5 Aullene - Zicavo 25.30 km Balesi, Claude 18m 43s 81.10 km/h
Difference is 6s/km (is there a mistake or rainy weather in 1987?)
1986 SS16 Moriani Plage - Orsoni 20.10 km Toivonen, Henri 14m 18s 84.34 km/h
1987 SS13 Moriani Piage - Orsoni 20.10 km Ragnotti, Jean 15m 05s 79.96 km/h
Difference is 2.3s/km
EDIT: Two more
1986 SS13 Sainte Florent - Col de San Stefano 26.81 km Saby, Bruno 19m 52s 80.97 km/h
1987 SS10 St Florent - Col San Stefano 26.80 km Ragnotti, Jean 20m 53s 77.00 km/h
Difference is 2.3s/km
1986 SS15 Folelli - Ste Lucie de Moriani 18.49 km Toivonen, Henri 14m 29s 76.60 km/h
1987 SS12 Folelli - Ste Lucie de Moriani 18.40 km Ragnotti, Jean 15m 08s 72.95 km/h
Difference is 2.1s/kmLast edited by AnttiL; 11th March 2020 at 05:55.
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11th March 2020, 06:08 #350
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Last edited by Allez Andruet; 11th March 2020 at 09:10. Reason: typo
ku ois neljä pyörää ku vetäis ni ois vähän eri sekunnit kyllä pätkillä, sen mä takaan
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Oli vs Paddon is an interesting fight eh
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