Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
That might be correct, but for normal road use, give them a chance, they will surprize you.

Here in Norway they are heavy subsidiced. None of the strage fees put on the price when you buy it new, and no VAT on E-Cars
On a normal 115 hp Golf vs e-Golf, the e-Golf et aprox 12 000 euro less tax/fees.
A normal petrol 115 hp Golf cost aprox 33 000 euro as a startprice.

More advantages: No yearly fees, can drive in the bus-lane, you can park them for free a lot of places, you do not have to pay on toll roads, low maintenence costs, very little noise, cheap insurance.

I drive 120 km (2x60) each day to work. If i were to use my old diesel car, that would cost me aprox 6000 euro only in diesel.
I have a small e-Up! as a commuter car. Charge it at home for aprox 8 euro a month, and charge it for free at the workplace. All in all a very good deal, both for me and the environment!

So now we have 3 electric cars in the household, and we have saved, and continue to save a lot of money!
as i said. people buy them because their government forces them to, not because they want to.


Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
Western progaganda only? https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ch...ion-2019-05-14

Manufacturers not truly interested in electric cars? https://cleantechnica.com/2019/08/13...electric-cars/
Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
Currently in most of the world, electric cars do no cost the same as petrol ones. I wrote when they actually do. People buy them, for the stated reasons.

WRC is basically a Europe-centric series (it even says in the rules that teams have to be based in Europe), the wast majority of cars is not sold in europe. But in countries like India or Indonesia, South America etc and are typically massively tuned down cheap older generation stuff.

Just looking at what car manufacturers actually invest in and develop right now shows you the majority is electric or hybrid. That being Toyota and VW who are the biggest car companies worldwide. That totally doesn't mean everyone will start driving electric tomorrow, but the trend is there.

Anyway talking about "propaganda" is the best way to stop any discussion.
everyone is free to believe what he thinks is right, but the numbers don't lie.
85 million cars on petrol or diesel sold. 1,5 million cars on electricity.

manufacturers hardly sell any electric cars outside country's where those are not extremely advantaged by government intervention in the market.
people don't buy them, so manufacturers don't want to build them.

if it wasn't for the ridiculous rules the EU and some western countries try to enforce, no big manufacturer would even bother to make a decent investment in electric cars. they only do it because the green lobby has a lot of influence in brussels and enforces them to get their average co2 emissions below something what is technically possible. it's politics, not economics.