The problem here is that none of you have understood where this argument started ie. why the new Mk8 Fiesta R5 is not out yet and if its anything to do with the new Fiesta ST only just being produced.

I asked if the fact the car was 'based on the ST' which every part of Ford and M-Sport claim, had anything to do with it. That was all.

And to NOT and T16 - get a life. You are both so sad and bitter that I proved you wrong in the past and are desperate to try to make a point. Pathetic.