One-Make Cup's

**Daniel Popov** · 29th December 2017, 07:45

What is the difference between the Fiesta R2's for the French Junior championship and the "standard" Fiesta R2?

**dupanton** · 29th December 2017, 10:33

Originally Posted by Daniel Popov

What is the difference between the Fiesta R2's for the French Junior championship and the "standard" Fiesta R2?

The engine is less powerfull. The rest is identical I think

**tommeke_B** · 29th December 2017, 10:42

Originally Posted by dupanton

The engine is less powerfull. The rest is identical I think

Apart from the engine it's all identical yes. Only the engine is pretty much standard with only different mapping. It produces +-155hp (the R2 over 180). It makes it much cheaper to run, the kit price is around 25 000 euros (+ VAT). A standard 1.0 ecoboost Fiesta could be bought for around 13 000 euros (+ VAT) I think.

**Sulland** · 30th December 2017, 20:04

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how much slower are these compared to the thoroughbred Fiesta R2?

Originally Posted by tommeke_B

Apart from the engine it's all identical yes. Only the engine is pretty much standard with only different mapping. It produces +-155hp (the R2 over 180). It makes it much cheaper to run, the kit price is around 25 000 euros (+ VAT). A standard 1.0 ecoboost Fiesta could be bought for around 13 000 euros (+ VAT) I think.

**Mirek** · 30th December 2017, 20:40

Originally Posted by Sulland

how much slower are these compared to the thoroughbred Fiesta R2?]

What do You expect as an answer?

**Sulland** · 30th December 2017, 20:44

Aprox sec/km ss slower.

**Mirek** · 30th December 2017, 20:51

Originally Posted by Sulland

Aprox sec/km ss slower.

Sulland, I think we discussed that already million times. There is never any such universal value. It's completely different on different stages, in different altitudes etc. The difference will be very small in Finland for example but much bigger on Corsica etc. Somebody may give You some number but what would it be good for You if it's let's say 0,2-0,4s/km? What would it tell You? Is it a lot or is it not? What does it mean a lot? IMHO such number for outsider is meaningless except as a curiosity.