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	15th November 2017, 18:07 #901Senior Member  
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	15th November 2017, 18:11 #902Senior Member  
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 Its quite puzzling to see that even now they aren't trying to get Tiedemand or Suninen, which are both cheap and talented. Matton should be shown the door. 
 
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 Tidemand and Suninen bring nothing better than Breen. What they badly need now is not another inexperienced drivers. Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
 
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 Maybe, but those guys are there only chance to see some better results. All their current drivers have hit their ceiling. 
 
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	15th November 2017, 18:37 #906Senior Member  
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 Last edited by car; 15th November 2017 at 21:23. 
 
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 Not after seeing how much he struggled with the car on gravel, but he would've signed a proper deal with Citroen early in the season, or before the season even began imo. That's when Matton should've offered him a long term deal and it was obvious at the time. 
 
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	15th November 2017, 19:07 #908Senior Member  
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 You really start to wonder how much time Matton has left in his job now. I don't feel like he has done anything in his years as the boss. SimRace Vereniging Nederland
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 What Citroen needs is a competent leading driver, able to motivate the whole team. In that sense, I don’t think Mikkelsen would make a huge difference from Meeke, besides being a more reliable driver. Ogier, with his constant winning focus and proven tech expertise would certainly push all Citroen staff members into a winning path; that’s what he did in VW and MSport. 
 
 On a hopeful note, we should remember Peugeot recent Dakar experience. Their first 2008DKR, in 2015, was a major flop, but with the help of a retired PSA tech guru (JC Vaucard) and the motivation of their leading driver (Peterhansel), they’ve managed to fix it and get a winning machine that’s still dominating the event.
 
 Maybe Citroen new tech chief (Besse) work and a further involvement from Loeb on the C3 development can operate a similar result…fingers crossed!Last edited by Rally Power; 15th November 2017 at 20:20. Rally addict since 1982
 
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 You forgot something, Citroen brings in this season quite a show. Still they have huge numbers of selling passenger C3's. And Serderidis car looks amazing. That livery rocks. All of official liveries are quite not much special this year, except Kremer's Fiesta was nice. Hyundai have better last year. And M-Sport was good looking for eyes some years ago with Castrol EDGE and Abu Dhabi. Really ugly I could say Bertelli have not taste at all. 
 


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I always find it amazing how often the driver behind has "so much more pace" until given a chance to prove it. I do think the team first told him he was free to pass, but then later ordered the...
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