Rally2 (ex-R5) News

[TWRC]

Regarding jokers, found this in the Appendix J Article 261:
"All the parts homologated on the VR5 Variant form must be used in their entirety. These parts
must not be modified.
The use of a part homologated as “Joker” on a car will be noted on its technical passport.
It will no longer be possible to use the old part as from the date specified."

[dodge33cymru]

It's really a mess...and a shame that FIA doesn't care to make regs more clear and easily understood by the fans.

I think the only fans that care are us sad folk on here (and I use that endearingly!).

R1 - R5 is plenty clear enough to understand IMO.

[Andre Oliveira]

191 to Bastien Heron Racing (F)



199 to ZM Racing (A)

[RS]

So when will 2018 R5 regs be published? Presumably Ford and Citroen are working on their new cars already..

[Sulland]

Jokers need to be registered in gold book. But not all R5 have gold passes. Some other modifications also need to be registered, some not. So it's not that easy and straightforward.
Some Software/firmware updates also need to be mentioned in gold pass.
Some jokers are necessary to be used in groups, some separate. All depends what is written on homologation documents of those.
So there is no easy way to track all the cars like they are without seeing their gold books. And not all cars have gold books and some have not recently updated ones. Most of the time they update the gold passes only on ERC or WRC events. So if car drives only national events you can just guess what's inside.

Why dont all R5 cars have gold books?
Is the manufacturer responsible to sell them with an updated gold book, or do they get it on their first FIA rally?
So if the car has only been used nationally, no Gold Book, or does this differ btw manufacturers?

How can customers in the market for a used R5 verify that what he buys, both regarding software and hardware, is what the seller says, or does he just have to trust the seller saying that this car has the following upgrades.
Could be a tough experience using borrowed money to buy a top notch Evo 'Y', and a check after you have been smashed in a rally from a competitor with a real Evo 'Y'. He has the car checked, and find it is a basic R5 without any upgrades.

Can you as a buyer demand to have a FIA approved Gold Book, of recent date?

[Mirek]

FIA golden pass is FIA stuff and is being issued by FIA officials. What is happening on national level is in the scope of particular national ASNs, not FIA.

AFAIK the golden pass for the car is created only when the car first time appears on FIA scrutineering. There is no need for doing so before. National ASNs don't require it and not all cars are sold by the factory as complete vehicles. Some are just kits in crates.

With buying used cars it's same like with common second hand cars. You'd better take someone who knows the stuff with You to check everything. Some sellers are honest, some promise You wonders and sell garbage. Such is life. FIA golden pass doesn't give You any guarantee that what is written in it is also installed. It's only a paper saying that the stuff was there when FIA saw the car last time.

[Jarek Z]

Ivan Ares is apparently going to drive Hyundai i20 R5 in the Spanish rally championship:
https://www.facebook.com/FanpageRIsl...type=3&theater

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Robert Barrable to give Hyundai i20 R5 Irish Tarmac RC debut In West Cork next month.

Paddy Flanagan, ITRC Manager:

“We all know what a talented driver Robert is, it was fantastic to see him along with Damian Connolly back in the Tarmac Championship in Galway, and now, going to West Cork in the new Hyundai i20 is another brilliant boost for the championship. We now have five different manufacturers represented in class 5″.

Robert plans a short test before the serious business begins in West Cork.

[Jarek Z]

Elwis Chentre and Fulvio Florean are going to drive Hyundai i20 R5 in Rally Il Ciocco (the first round of Italian rally championship on March 19):
http://www.motorzone.it/rally/al-via...yundai-i20-r5/

[Rally Power]

R5 regs to 2018 will be exciting

Bigger air restrictor? It’s a wild guess but the Skoda unit testing in Portugal seems faster than the current one and like it was suggested it could be the first test car for both Skoda and VW ’18 models.
D1OM video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DPaKvl69vk