GT Class

**pantealex** · 19th December 2016, 20:23

Porsche has been slower than R3...
And Abarth is not faster than Porsche.

**GravelBen** · 19th December 2016, 20:27

Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

Pretty normal that 250-300hp RWD cars gets beaten by 180 hp R2's. Difference here in Norway is usually 1-2 min on a 80km rally.

Is that because they're old RWDs and the R2 are modern cars with better suspension and brakes?

**Mirek** · 19th December 2016, 20:32

Originally Posted by pantealex

Porsche has been slower than R3...
And Abarth is not faster than Porsche.

How do You know? It has nearly 400 kg less. So far we haven't seen a single stage time.

**dimviii** · 19th December 2016, 21:02

at tarmac I expect to be faster from r2 but slower from r3.
at gravel imho he will loose from both.
I am talking for average performance,and not some stages that could use the advantage of extra power.

**Andre Oliveira** · 19th December 2016, 21:42

Many of R2 are faster than R3

**dimviii** · 19th December 2016, 21:48

Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira

Many of R2 are faster than R3

yes it happens with better driver at r2.

**SubaruNorway** · 19th December 2016, 21:52

Originally Posted by GravelBen

Is that because they're old RWDs and the R2 are modern cars with better suspension and brakes?

Not really, some of the old RWD's are worth twice as much as an R2

**Coach 2** · 19th December 2016, 21:53

You mean that some drivers are faster with R2 cars than some other drivers,
even if they are driving in R3 cars.

**Jarek Z** · 20th December 2016, 00:11

According to http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/muniz-...-abartha,72886 Spanish driver Álvaro Muñiz Mora is going to drive Abarth 124 in the Spanish tarmac championship 2017.