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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Why is everybody so sure Wilson can’t get Mikkelsen? If Ogier doesn’t sign it’d be a waste not to take it. He could put Camilli on WRC2 or ERC. It worked for Evans.
    if it worked for Evans, we will see when Evans will return with wrc car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    no comments about Latvala at Toyota? not a surprise,but I d like to listen your thoughts.

    well, like you said, it is no surprise...at least we get to know how bad/good the car really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    if it worked for Evans, we will see when Evans will return with wrc car.
    He'll be fine. He seems more consistent now.
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    If I were Wilson I would take Mikkelsen even if Ogier accepts and put Camilli in both WRC2 and WRC Trophy maybe, to get more experience (and maybe some run in the top league at the end of the year).
    Of course only if sponsors can pay for it. Take into account that he would win manufacturer with that kind of lineup.

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    Evans himself told that this year was a stagnation. Maybe he seems more consistent but in R5 car, we don't know how it would be in WRC. Kubica was also consistent in WRC2 . What Evans was lacking is pure pace, especially on gravel - thats still a big question mark.

    Shame if Mikkelsen couldn't get a 2017 drive. Still don't get why Hanninen has a seat, when there is 3rd best driver of 2017 on the market knocking on TMR doors...

    He had some experience with cows if that could help. Ok, maybe not the best one to start negotiation with Tommi.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhSE0QTJ_po

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmi View Post
    Not sure Colin really knows much more than the rest of us?
    CC just giving his opinions which IMO are bit more valid than mere fans as he has the contacts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maciotacio View Post
    Shame if Mikkelsen couldn't get a 2017 drive. Still don't get why Hanninen has a seat, when there is 3rd best driver of 2017 on the market knocking on TMR doors...[/url]
    Probably because he's been involved with the project since day one and 2017 is still considered as a development year for TGR. Ofcourse it's a make or break year for Hänninen, if he doesn't deliver in 2017, he can forget WRC for good. He was excellent during his Skoda years, but after that he has too rarely shown his true capability. It'll be interesting to see his speed vs. Latvala.

    I still think Mikkelsen's a bit overrated. Sure, the Australia win was magnificent, but he's driven the best car in the series for four years and been fastest in one rally. And I definitely don't mean that JML should've been picked by TGR before Mikkelsen (JML was horrible in 2016), but it's not like it's the biggest travesty in WRC history if Mikkelsen is left without a seat for 2017.

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    Remember that Hänninen was confirmed as a full time driver before VW left the sport.
    Last edited by smsgrafica; 8th December 2016 at 22:50.
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    Damn! Living for a long WKND in a no phone/net zone. Il’ll miss news and rumours! My bet/wish: Ogier at Ford; Mikkelsen in VW along Nasser; Evans and Ostberg in DMack. Fingers crossed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Mikkelsen is the third best driver in WRC, and he has been since 2015. Thats why it would be a shame to see him without a seat in 2017. Look at Camilli, does anyone really care about him? Or Řstberg. They will never be able to match Ogiers speed. The sport need the guys that are able to chase down Ogier..
    So, overrated or not, he is still in the top 3 and lets hope he will find a seat for next year.
    Completely agree, in 2017 there are only 2 drivers that can challenge Ogier: Mikkelsen and Neuville. There are many other good drivers now, much more than 5 years ago but they are all at least 1 level below Ogier. Even Mikkelsen and Neuville need favourable circumstances to stand a chance, if everything is equal Ogier will beat them.

    Also before people make the argument about Mikkelsen having the best car for a few years: he's been a close 3rd two times against JML and Neuville. He has grown above JML lately and he's about equal with Neuville. The only one clearly better, shoulders above the rest, is Ogier. Unless Meeke gets a clearly superior DS3 next year no on else can win the title in 2017 except Ogier, Mikkelsen or Neuville.

    Moving on... about this silly season, it seems Ogier will make his decision soon. But even after that there are many things yet unknown. The first important point is the manufacturer registration for 2017 which i think is in december sometime. There we will find out if Ford decides to back MSport and if there will be any kind of VW team.

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