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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    Toyota is a village team of nothingness, they do not respect the project themselves, so who cares ?

    We are talking about first class drivers here not just testers, i doubt teams are going to invite them to test the car and then make up their mind.
    When you talk to Pantealex you should worry. Better be silent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    When you talk to Pantealex you should worry. Better be silent.
    are you talking to God?

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    I don't really agree with all the hate towards Toyota, no one at the moment knows how is their speed going to be like in 2017.
    They started their WRC program from scratch like 9 months ago. They tried to get the best drivers available but as we all know they all had different plans and current contracts which led to Toyota to pick Juho and I don't see any problem with that.
    People who blame them to have mostly Finnish employees etc. are dumb. Why wouldn't they pick people they know and trust?
    I know for a fact that there is also people working from outside of Finland and I think they are all capable to do their jobs.
    One big false that they are doing is letting team principal to be one of their test drivers, that's just plain dumb for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    I don't really agree with all the hate towards Toyota
    I don't see any hate, only trolling - it's perfectly acceptable in 21st century.

    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    One big false that they are doing is letting team principal to be one of their test drivers, that's just plain dumb for me.
    I doubt it, but we'll see.
    Last edited by stefanvv; 13th November 2016 at 23:02.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    One big false that they are doing is letting team principal to be one of their test drivers, that's just plain dumb for me.
    Even Malcolm didn't testing his WRCar..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnold Triyudho Wardono View Post
    Even Malcolm didn't testing his WRCar..
    Why would he? Tommi is a multiple world champion who can provide a lot of useful feedback on the car (same with Gronholm as VW test driver), I don't think you can say the same about Malcom. He has done much better as a manager than he did as a driver.

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    Malcolm drove the car once in his back yard.

    Tommi has flown all over Europe to actually 'test' the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    Tommi has flown all over Europe to actually 'test' the car.
    And while it is unusual to do that job as well as being team principal, you can't deny that he does have the experience to be a very good test driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    are you talking to God?
    No, just that "God" thinks he knows best, from people knowing better.
    Last edited by Rallyper; 14th November 2016 at 09:59.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    so, Ogier should be named as a m-sport driver today, im waiting patiently
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