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    Quote Originally Posted by bassist View Post
    I think Jari has been one of the quickest drivers over the past 10 years or so.But he hasnt been to able to deliver when it mattered. He has been caught up in VW`s exit the same as Andreas and Seb, but i really dont think he deserves the attention being focussed on him in all of this. I hope that some of the young guns looking to show their talents in the WRC dont lose out because of it.
    Is Latvala the most talented driver never to win the title?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAS007 View Post
    Is Latvala the most talented driver never to win the title?
    No, there are many talented drivers that are no longer in the WRC and Latvala would share the same fate looooooong time ago but daddy was and is there for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    No, there are many talented drivers that are no longer in the WRC and Latvala would share the same fate looooooong time ago but daddy was and is there for him.
    Agreed. Delecour in 93-94 comes to mind, especially the road accident in 94 that kept him out fir a few rallies. Who else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAS007 View Post
    Agreed. Delecour in 93-94 comes to mind, especially the road accident in 94 that kept him out fir a few rallies. Who else?
    Daniel Carlsson
    PG Andersson
    Mikko Hirvonen
    Daniel Sola
    Francois Duval

    and many many more, nobody had the chances Latvala had and stayed in a team for as long as Latvala did without delivering results. When you talk about talent is very hard to quantify, what do you mean by talent ? going fast ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    Daniel Carlsson
    PG Andersson
    Mikko Hirvonen
    Daniel Sola
    Francois Duval

    and many many more, nobody had the chances Latvala had and stayed in a team for as long as Latvala did without delivering results. When you talk about talent is very hard to quantify, what do you mean by talent ? going fast ?
    Good list. Agree talent is hard to define/quantify, but going fast, probably yes, but going fast consistently, on every surface, having the opportunity (like Latvala) and still not winning (the title). Hirvonen has to be the best recent example. Latvala's mental state seems to have been his undoing. Agree about Duval too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    Daniel Carlsson
    PG Andersson
    Mikko Hirvonen
    Daniel Sola
    Francois Duval

    and many many more, nobody had the chances Latvala had and stayed in a team for as long as Latvala did without delivering results. When you talk about talent is very hard to quantify, what do you mean by talent ? going fast ?
    You must be young to forget how close Markku Allen was and also Michelle Mouton were to winning the championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grundo Farb View Post
    You must be young to forget how close Markku Allen was and also Michelle Mouton were to winning the championship.
    I do not value rally drivers of an era that a woman could even be competitive, they were nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    I do not value rally drivers of an era that a woman could even be competitive, they were nothing.
    Obviously you never competed against her, she was definitely something special, a one off special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    I do not value rally drivers of an era that a woman could even be competitive, they were nothing.
    ...and that's where I lost the last ounce of respect I had for you. Doesn't matter how right you are about something anymore, all of my respect for you is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    Daniel Carlsson
    PG Andersson
    Mikko Hirvonen
    Daniel Sola
    Francois Duval

    and many many more, nobody had the chances Latvala had and stayed in a team for as long as Latvala did without delivering results. When you talk about talent is very hard to quantify, what do you mean by talent ? going fast ?
    Latvala has had more chances than others, that's undeniable. But please, winning 15 events during the Sebs era is far from "not delivering results" or being a nobody.
    Of course daddy paid at the beginning of his career but I'm sure every team principal would have welcomed him until at least last year.

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