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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    i would say the vw is still the best car, but not by a big margin.
    not because ogier is winning, but because i believe sordo is better on tarmac than latvala, yet latvala sets faster stage times when he's not crashing.

    i suspect ogier would still be world champion when driving a hyundai, but i would also suspect that sordo would have won in spain if he was driving the vw and ogier the hyundai.
    I agree also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupanton View Post
    Don't forget the Citroën. People underestimate the Citroën (and overestimate Meeke and Breen...)
    I don't think Meeke is overestimated. One of our young drivers (Hyundai trophy owner for 2nd year) believes he has the cleanest style after Ogier.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Paddon answers about how better is polo

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    I think we are pretty close - in some conditions they have adv, but most of the time we can keep pace now. No one knows for next year yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    I don't think Meeke is overestimated. One of our young drivers (Hyundai trophy owner for 2nd year) believes he has the cleanest style after Ogier.
    Yes, someone from Citroën said that Meeke's style is pretty reminiscent of Loeb's, that's why he got on so well with the DS3 so quickly, also that's why they were able to use Loeb's setups for him with only minor tweaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWRC View Post
    Yes, someone from Citroën said that Meeke's style is pretty reminiscent of Loeb's, that's why he got on so well with the DS3 so quickly, also that's why they were able to use Loeb's setups for him with only minor tweaks.
    Breen seems comfortable with it too. Next year is going to be interesting.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    In a WRC season, manufacturers can use only 3 engines per car. Actually one more if they request for it and have a good reason (which I think they will all have), so 4 engines per car per season. There's a similar rule regarding gearbox and diffs. Now my question is, does Citroën ("PH Sport") have to comply to these rules? Since they're not registered as a manufacturer, I think they don't. How much advantage can Citroën get from being able to have a new/different engine/gearbox etc every event? Maybe this could explain the fact that Citroën is more competitive this year on the events they're doing. Maybe someone on this forum who has more insight on the technical side of the sport can give us an explanation?

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    I don't think next year will be as good as some are predicting. Ogier its going to hammer everyone, and Meeke will crash a lot. I don't believe the hype around the cars either, I can't see how they will be more spectacular with a few big wings and an extra few hp.

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    They have 2 rallies left with current cars, it does´t matter anymore is polo quickest.

    Next year new cars, maybe some other car is faster but Ogier will still be 2017 champion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    In a WRC season, manufacturers can use only 3 engines per car. Actually one more if they request for it and have a good reason (which I think they will all have), so 4 engines per car per season. There's a similar rule regarding gearbox and diffs. Now my question is, does Citroën ("PH Sport") have to comply to these rules? Since they're not registered as a manufacturer, I think they don't. How much advantage can Citroën get from being able to have a new/different engine/gearbox etc every event? Maybe this could explain the fact that Citroën is more competitive this year on the events they're doing. Maybe someone on this forum who has more insight on the technical side of the sport can give us an explanation?
    that would be an advantage,if they did all rallies. With less than half rallies,they dont need a new engine/diff at every round.

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    We can only pray that another car is faster in 2017 ... that's the only way someone can remotely challenge Ogier.

    But the chances are slim to none as VW have been testing their new car for longer than anyone.

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