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    Yeah I struggle to see why people are having such a hard time with the WRC going to China. You can say what you want about the country but the car market is undeniable. Mirek is absolutely right it's about marketing. The teams aren't running as a charity.

    It's for the same reason I can't understand (as much as I love the event), how anyone can say the WRC 'needs' New Zealand. I'd take 15 works WRC cars and a couple of questionable events over a calendar of classics with no competition any day.

    Anyway here's an Autosport article on the China situation: http://www.autosport.com/news/report...ve-rally-china


    The only thing I would add against this year's event is that it does seem this rally has probably been rushed in due to press from the likes of Citroen. And that may well have led to some of these funding issues.
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    Marketing used to be about pointing to the 'success' of the brand in competition WHEREVER that was in the world. Is the presence of 3 VW Polos in China going to amount to anything substantial in terms of raising the awareness of 1Bn people?
    Is it about the acceptability of the Chinese regime in international sporting links? Who is paying for all this really and given that like Platini, the FIA administrators are French are there personal motivations, other than committment to spreading the WRC word, at play here?
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    you are in a motorsport forum and you dont want a rally? what is wrong with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mintexmemory View Post
    Is it about the acceptability of the Chinese regime in international sporting links? Who is paying for all this really and given that like Platini, the FIA administrators are French are there personal motivations, other than committment to spreading the WRC word, at play here?
    Maybe with other sports there were political or financial unclear motivations to get into China, but IMO that’s not the case in WRC.

    A WRC event in China’s huge market it’s important for the manus marketing but above all it’s vital for the WRC marketing itself and the whole rallysport development. We can’t expect to grow WRC visibility if it remains only in Europe and in one or two overseas countries with already established rally tradition. We need WRC to get worldwide recognition, because that’s the only way our sport can raise in a global society.

    The Chinese rally championship seems to have been doing some fine progress over the last years, with several European, Japanese and Chinese brands involved. It looks like it’s the right time to go there and raise the local media interest into rally. Maybe the tarmac route choice wasn’t the ideal one and probably the floods damages will affect the organizers job, but there’s little question about the growing potential that China’s Rally brings to WRC and the rallysport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mintexmemory View Post
    Is it about the acceptability of the Chinese regime in international sporting links? Who is paying for all this really and given that like Platini, the FIA administrators are French are there personal motivations, other than committment to spreading the WRC word, at play here?
    Are we really going to start discussing morals in geopolitics and global business? Bah, there are worse regimes our governments and businessmen hapily shake hands with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Are we really going to start discussing morals in geopolitics and global business? Bah, there are worse regimes our governments and businessmen hapily shake hands with.
    Oh well that's ok then! Homer Simpson's equation in action- '2 wrongs make a right, Lisa'
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    No, I am saying that there are better places to discuss moral and politic stuff than motorsportforums. In the end it's pretty hypocritical to talk about morals in sport which happily enjoys money from Saudi Arabia or Qatar.
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    I have yet to see a cool section of road from this rally, anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmi View Post
    And that may well have led to some of these funding issues.
    The funding issues is because someone, or a group of people, desired the WRC in China more than the chinese themself.

    Then, is easy to imagine. Let's find the funding to the rally. How? Trying to convince some important people to sponsor the rally, but that costs a lot of money in comissions.

    As a friend of mine said: It would not be a surprise if the money from sponsors would had burned in comissions before any penny had arrived to the organizers pocket.

    China is a complex country, not like what we are used to see.

    Did anyone tried to understand why Ma Qing Hua spent so many time before announced the car to China rally? The guy has money, no? Maybe not...
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    So, again rumours about a cancellation.
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