New R4 Car - Think Tank

[skarderud]

Just to clearify for my self.
The main point with this R4 category is that anyone can build a car "at home" with standard mandatory parts?
Mainly for National championship?

[Rally Power]

Yes, if you meant “at home” as private local tuners. The international homologation may happen if FIA decides to introduce officially R4 in Europe and in other regions. It seems there’s a will to do it, but for now only some ASN’s are using R4 related rules (under different names: N5; MR; AP4) on their national championships.

Co-driven: any results from Catamarca? What's the restrictor size for MR Turbo?

[Co-driven]

Co-driven: any results from Catamarca? What's the restrictor size for MR Turbo?

I´d say that results were good, but the MR turbo is still a bit behind the R5 cars. Luciano Preto rolled on the first day, but the overal winner among the Argentine drivers was Geronimo Padilla with a Ford Fiesta MR turbo, from Baratec. He was more than a minute faster than his fellow countryman with the NA MR cars. And he was around a minute behind Gustavo Saba, the winner of the event.

The results are a bit hard to compare, because the MR turbo don´t appear on the Codasur results (I don´t know the reason for that, maybe because they aren´t homologated yet). The MR turbo is competing only as an guest driver, so although Padilla won the event in the National Championship, he didn´t receive trophy for that.

But the results can be found here:
http://www.acryr.com.ar/tiempos/2016...catamarca/MENU (Codasur)

http://www.rallyargentino.org.ar.php...ARGFIN_ET2.HTM (Rally Argentino)

Sorry, but I don´t know the exact dimension of the restrictor.

[Sulland]

A sales price of 150 000 euro seems high, if a year old R5 cost around 180 000.
A Dytko cost aprox 50 000, with same engines, but not sure of differences on the rest of the car.

But 150 000 seems steep!

[skarderud]

A sales price of 150 000 euro seems high, if a year old R5 cost around 180 000.
A Dytko cost aprox 50 000, with same engines, but not sure of differences on the rest of the car.

But 150 000 seems steep!

Where is the prices?
Is it a complete car then?
How much does the parts costs, It is some standard parts to use?

The dytko is a example how it should be, a more pricevalued car for National championships.
How fast is it compared to a R5?

[Rally Power]

According to Spanish ASN (RFEDA) rules, each N5 car is homologated individually and the owner of the car is the owner of the homologation form. A N5 can be built using the mandatory kit (available from certified suppliers) and all the other parts mentioned in the regs (including a rally purpose build body, coming from a certified tuner). Parts are classified as PK (those included in the mandatory kit); PH (homologated parts with free origin); PL (special parts without homologation); PS (original parts from the base model). Alternatively a fully assembled model can be bought from certified tuners but must be also individually homologated. Because this is the first year of this new category, the certified kit suppliers and body tuners list it’s not yet available. Only two tuners (RMC and ARVidal) are for now authorized and the kit comes from Baratec. There are no confirmed prices yet, but the € 150.000 number for a complete car was talked some time ago by people close to one of the tuners.

N5 Overall description: https://www.rfeda.es/documents/20185...7-1b818248e8fc
N5 Technical regulation: https://www.rfeda.es/documents/20185...b-73fb1e04a99c

[Mirek]

A Dytko cost aprox 50 000, with same engines, but not sure of differences on the rest of the car.

That sounds completely unreal. 50 thousand is less than R2...

[AdvEvo]

When do we see the first fia homologated cars with the new approved r4 kit?

Who is making them?

[Andre Oliveira]

http://www.oreca.com/blog/2017/01/27...er-of-r4-kits/

[dupanton]

Curious to see the price of these kits...