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    He's not saying he should run at the back though, unless I've missed something; qualifying was fine, but as you say that meant the road position was earned. I'm sure he'd be fine with first day in championship order and that seems like the fairest way, although personally I'd prefer it to just go back to seedings.
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    Do we need another driver who wins another 9 championships in the row?! I don't think so. With fair rules Ogier is another decade winner. It's not about rules, it's about wrong choose of drivers when they can not win against Ogier any other way then with stupid rules. So it can stay this way (2 days of cleaning) or they can put weight balast, I don't care. Let it be interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barreis View Post
    Do we need another driver who wins another 9 championships in the row?! I don't think so. With fair rules Ogier is another decade winner. It's not about rules, it's about wrong choose of drivers when they can not win against Ogier any other way then with stupid rules. So it can stay this way (2 days of cleaning) or they can put weight balast, I don't care. Let it be interesting...
    I prefer to see the best driver win even if it is for 10 or 20 years in a row rather than see masterless dogs do it.

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    I want to see the best driver win – if that means he wins all the time - then TOUGH!!
    It’s up to the others to raise their game.
    Why do motorsport series think handicapping is the solution? If it’s because they fear interest will drop then the sport has already got a problem – and rules tinkering is not the solution. It’s yet another short term fix…….

    Qualifying was the ‘least worst’ solution – but Ogier still won, which is not what they want.

    Something is wrong when you start an event, and you know the best driver is unlikely to win because he’s handicapped by running first on the road on dry, dusty gravel for two days.

    It’s no good comparing it to the old days because the events back then were far longer & tougher; time lost could be made up in the next few days; in modern sprint events there’s no chance, especially with the ridiculously short final Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barreis View Post
    Let it be interesting...
    I find it poor show. May be people not so interested in the sport finds it interesting to have different winners, but the spectacle watching speed is suffering.

    QS is fine, opening the road first day is fine covering 30-40% of the rally (as soon they run reverse next days), but opening the road 80% of the rally is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barreis View Post
    Do we need another driver who wins another 9 championships in the row?! I don't think so. With fair rules Ogier is another decade winner. It's not about rules, it's about wrong choose of drivers when they can not win against Ogier any other way then with stupid rules. So it can stay this way (2 days of cleaning) or they can put weight balast, I don't care. Let it be interesting...
    The rules shouldn't be there to hinder Ogier's performance, he is the best currently and deserves to carry the number 1 on his car. It should be there because that is the way rallying is.

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    Here's a provocative question with emphasis on the second part. Why should we favor the fastest and disfavor the slower ones?
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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    Here is an alternative way of thinking.
    How about change the order of rallies not the running order
    The current rallies go Monte, Snow, Altitude, Gravel, Gravel Gravel Gravel Gravel Asphalt Asphalt Asphalt Mixed Gravel Gravel
    Imagine if rallies went Monte, Snow, Altitude, Gravel, Gravel Asphalt Gravel Asphalt Gravel Mixed Gravel Asphalth Gravel Gravel
    Generally first on road is advantage on asphalt and disadvantage on gravel. Would mixing up order of events to alternate advantage disadvantage from road position create a much more interesting and fairer season without needing to change start order
    I realize this is just wild thinking and tehre may be many reason why it could
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    Was seeding per event how they did it up until the late '90s? I seem to remember Sainz and McRae complaining about running order in Australia around '98-'99

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    3 car teams for 2017. My predictions. @Petter_Solberg @GronholmM will win rallies. Maybe even Marko and Tommi. Portugal will be interesting

    @planetemarcus @Petter_Solberg @GronholmM they will be in demand next year

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