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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmi View Post
    I don't think anyone is in doubt that the road order needs looking at. Ogier has made so much noise about it that it's becoming unavoidable and the FIA needs to rectify this.

    Amen. The best thing FIA could do right now is to take back 2014 starting rules (1st day according to championship standings, 2nd/3rd days according to previous day classification, with top ten running in reversed order).

    That way it’d be pretty clear that VW and Ogier aren’t the dominant force they used to be. They’re mainly upset because competition has managed to progress and reach their technical level.

    Paddon won Argentina’s last day direct confrontation with Ogier and Meeke got a 34.5s advantage over the French at the end of Portugal’s 2nd leg (while last year Latvala’s leaded only by 9.5s). Trying to justify that with current starting order isn’t serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    That way it’d be pretty clear that VW and Ogier aren’t the dominant force they used to be. They’re mainly upset because competition has managed to progress and reach their technical level.

    Paddon won Argentina’s last day direct confrontation with Ogier and Meeke got a 34.5s advantage over the French at the end of Portugal’s 2nd leg (while last year Latvala’s leaded only by 9.5s). Trying to justify that with current starting order isn’t serious.
    both these wins were because of starting order and because Latavla is nothing.

    Paddons was a bit more substantial because it was a one stage dog fight and Ogier barely loses those, but with 1 day of cleaning Ogier would be the winner in those rallies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    (...) with 1 day of cleaning Ogier would be the winner in those rallies.
    How can anyone be that sure anymore?
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    Let's be honest, Ogier is not giving 110% anymore to win rallies with such rules.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    Ogier? I don't think so. He has the beast in him which just must crush the others. Always. And that's exactly why he feels frustrated even when he is already now near sure 2016 champion.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    Let's be honest, Ogier is not giving 110% anymore to win rallies with such rules.
    It's possible. Best way to know is to get back to previous rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmi View Post
    People just hate sustained periods of success and lord knows the WRC has endured enough of that. So by definition it is exciting to see new and different drivers winning. It's more about momentum and hope for the future that we will actually get these fights more often.

    Whether you agree with Capito's points or not - to come out with this the day after a rival victory is massively poor form. It's disrespectful and short-sighted, and it's also another PR own-goal for VW. To say having multiple rally winners 'devalues' the sport shows he certainly has the right mentality for F1!

    I don't think anyone is in doubt that the road order needs looking at. Ogier has made so much noise about it that it's becoming unavoidable and the FIA needs to rectify this. The idea about putting 'wild card' drivers first on the road is stupid though - like most of his ideas.
    There are a lot of ways to look at the starting order, 2014 rules might be the best route, but the timing of this statement is really poorly judged.

    And its also taking away to much from the performances of the recent winners. I think Latvala can testify to the fact that these victories are a little bit more difficult than just picking them up like groceries in the convenience store.

    And I know a guy from New Zealand who is gearing up to take on Ogier from any starting position
    https://www.facebook.com/noseendfirst?ref=hl#

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    So does that mean that capito wants them running at the front in tarmac rallys too pulling all the dirt onto the road in front of ogier like he does for everyone else...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Ogier? I don't think so. He has the beast in him which just must crush the others. Always. And that's exactly why he feels frustrated even when he is already now near sure 2016 champion.
    It is Your right to think what You wish, but in my opinion he has given up the fight with impossible.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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