Toyota announces WRC plans

[N.O.T]

Perhaps that's why we can recall those who, over the past 5 or so decades, have shaped history and we understand the contributions, efforts and sacrifices they made. And how they are deserving of our respect, not our ridicule.

oooh... thank you very much.

[Grundo Farb]

Yes Per, you have a long varied involvement in the sport, as do I and a number of others who frequent the forum. Perhaps that's why we can recall those who, over the past 5 or so decades, have shaped history and we understand the contributions, efforts and sacrifices they made. And how they are deserving of our respect, not our ridicule.

Crikey, should we call you "Sir"?

[sollitt]

Crikey, should we call you "Sir"?

No thanks. I do though suggest a short course in English comprehension. Some of your recent posts display a shortcoming in that area.

[Grundo Farb]

No thanks. I do though suggest a short course in English comprehension. Some of your recent posts display a shortcoming in that area.

Maybe you could help me with my comprehension of this word: Pompous.

Now back to Toyota...

[sollitt]

Maybe you could help me with my comprehension of this word: Pompous.

The fact is Grundo, you've written two replies to two of my posts clearly without understanding a word of either one. Who's pompous?

[Grundo Farb]

The fact is Grundo, you've written two replies to two of my posts clearly without understanding a word of either one. Who's pompous?

There is a difference between understanding your post and disagreeing with it.

You come across as someone with superior knowledge because you have been following a sport for a long time and most likely a driver, car builder etc (which is all great) but it doesn't give you any more valid opinion than someone else. I base my opinion on a number of sources (having followed the sport since last century as well) and most importantly the experience of my brother who joined Ralliart in the late 80's when they were developing the Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 with Ari Vatanen and then he joined Ford and worked with the development of the Cosworth RS500, with Stig Blomqvuist, Colin Macrae and also Jonathan Palmer with the RS200 as a Rallycross car etc.

Those days and era are very different to today. I am not an expert, I don't profess to be an expert but I am voicing an opinion that I don't think replicating what has gone before is necessarily the correct thing to do. Formula one has changed, Touring Cars and V8 supercars have changed and I think so has WRC car development. I don't think building a car is the hard bit, building a winning car is very very difficult today, Hyundai has a team of 190 that supports their car development and WRC programme - that's a lot of people in the background working on a number of things - only 4 of them are drivers. Tommi would get my vote of confidence if he was demonstrating more that he is building the team around him than driving the car.

That's my opinion.

[bowler]

Grundo, I don't think that many of us know what tommi is doing, apart from what we read in the media. The very stuff that Andrew Cowan did to build Ralliart was invisible to an outsider also. Time alone will tell, but don't underestimate the people and the process. Like you I am not sure, but for the sake of the sport I want them to succeed

[bowler]

And pompous is a town in Italy, south of Romus

[Grundo Farb]

And pompous is a town in Italy, south of Romus

Love it, brilliant!

[Rallyper]

Yes Per, you have a long varied involvement in the sport, as do I and a number of others who frequent the forum. Perhaps that's why we can recall those who, over the past 5 or so decades, have shaped history and we understand the contributions, efforts and sacrifices they made. And how they are deserving of our respect, not our ridicule.

This OT, but have to be answered. Saying NOT belongs to the forum doesnt mean you agree with him. Not especially when he ridicules people. Still he is the salt on this forum and should be that way.