Rally Wrc Mexicooo 2016

**dimviii** · 9th March 2016, 20:52

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Still he is 2nd in championship. Tactics or slow, that´s the question...

there is no question.He is slow.Admit it.

slow compared with his championship rivals.Not with you and me,with Maurin and Nikara.

**stefanvv** · 9th March 2016, 22:45

Originally Posted by dimviii

He is slow.

So what? Yes, slower than Ogier and some others, but for the moment only Ogier seem to matter, and he is not only problem for Ostberg, but for anyone else. Ostberg picks up what the other can't. Who is the winner and who are the loosers?
If you expect of him to rech Ogier's level some day, will be dissapointed, he never will....

**AL14** · 9th March 2016, 23:33

Fast and slow are not everything in rally. So we can say Ostberg is relatively slow but not that he is a bad driver. He is a very good driver, I would say one of the best. Last year was best non VW driver. No one can deny it. Rankings speak for themself, and he also skipped an event.

Said that I get critics toward him. But thhe point is not that he is "slow" the point is that he is a driver with no more to say to the championship. His learning curve is flat, he is happy and comfortable where he is. In a word, he is annoying, unless you are a fan of him since early days.

**dimviii** · 9th March 2016, 23:41

Originally Posted by stefanvv

So what? Yes, slower than Ogier and some others, but for the moment only Ogier seem to matter, and he is not only problem for Ostberg, but for anyone else. Ostberg picks up what the other can't. Who is the winner and who are the loosers?
If you expect of him to rech Ogier's level some day, will be dissapointed, he never will....

read again.If after you read again you understand the same,read again and again till you understand what i wrote.

**dimviii** · 9th March 2016, 23:46

Originally Posted by AL14

Fast and slow are not everything in rally. So we can say Ostberg is relatively slow but not that he is a bad driver. He is a very good driver, I would say one of the best. Last year was best non VW driver. No one can deny it. Rankings speak for themself, and he also skipped an event.

Said that I get critics toward him. But thhe point is not that he is "slow" the point is that he is a driver with no more to say to the championship. His learning curve is flat, he is happy and comfortable where he is. In a word, he is annoying, unless you are a fan of him since early days.

a driver that he cant win a stage,not a rally,a single stage at his best surface after so many years at wrc ,is slow.
he never will win a rally because he was fast.
Nobody said that he is not a good driver.We said that he is slow compared to his rivals.
And thats not something bad,plenty of such drivers for every era.
Tired about the bad ds3 he had to change his driving,tired for the excuses for the new co driver after 3 rallies with him,tired about so many excuses for years.

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 10th March 2016, 00:06

Originally Posted by dimviii

a driver that he cant win a stage,not a rally,a single stage at his best surface after so many years at wrc ,is slow.

Are you just talking about this 2016 rally ?

Mads won several stages in Mexico in the two seasons (2014 & 2015).

He may have been able to do so again but for having to drive for points with no team-mate back-up...

**stefanvv** · 10th March 2016, 08:31

Originally Posted by dimviii

read again.If after you read again you understand the same,read again and again till you understand what i wrote.

I did it in many posts, don't really get why is all the critics. The man is doing his job as well as he could and is in better position than faster drivers than him. If there is someone who deserves critics now is Neuville, total dissapoinment for me.

**seb_sh** · 10th March 2016, 08:58

Ostberg may be "slow and annoying" to some but the facts are he is at the moment one of the best drivers in the WRC. I think it's wrong to blame him for being consistent but unspectacular, just as it's wrong to blame Ogier for being faster and less error prone than the rest. Blame the others who are not beating this "slow" driver on rallies or in the championship. I'm not a fan of Ostberg myself and I don't think he will ever be WDC but he is a solid 2nd driver who brings in points and doesn't wreck cars.

**tommeke_B** · 10th March 2016, 09:06

+1, for any team except VW there are no better options. I think we can put Ostberg and Sordo in the same category. Overall they lack a bit of speed to fight for the wins, but they're probably the most reliable drivers of the WRC field (apart from the Seb's) in the last 10 years. They crash maybe once per year and on other occasions they're always scoring championship points if there are no problems with the car.