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    Do You agree with the cow at the end?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM4r81DEV_U
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    How is that a problem?
    It is a problem when the main contender already has given up after the first day.

    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    Its great for the spectacle seeing drivers pushing hard to try and overcome adversity. Do you say the same thing on tarmac rallies when the cars down the order are 'going all over the place' due to the lead cars dragging mud onto the road? Or when everyone after the first 5 cars was battling through ruts in Poland?
    In general I agree, but as the order difference is so great for the drivers with similar performance, it becomes burden for spectators also, because they don't witness real competition.

    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    What else would you do, send out a grader between each car to make sure the road conditions don't change too much?
    Of course not, returning the QS will be more than enough, fair and square.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    It is a problem when the main contender already has given up after the first day.



    In general I agree, but as the order is so great with the drivers with similar performance, it becomes burden for spectators also, because they don't witness real competition.



    Of course not, returning the QS will be more than enough, fair and square.
    Totally agree, why did they scrap the QS, actually why...does anyone know?

    Also Ogier never gave up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toyoda View Post
    Totally agree, why did they scrap the QS, actually why...does anyone know?

    Also Ogier never gave up
    Ogier did give up. He said, "I'm not pushing anymore.", after one of the stages earlier on Saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAS007 View Post
    Ogier did give up. He said, "I'm not pushing anymore.", after one of the stages earlier on Saturday.
    Ogier never gives up surely, he is also known to play mind games with Latvala
    Last edited by Toyoda; 7th March 2016 at 01:49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toyoda View Post
    Ogier never gives up surely, he is also known to play mind games with Latvala
    this wasn't mind game, he was just struggling to match decent pace with him. If You watch the videos it is obvious.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    But here comes why Ostberg did his homework - the Fiesta now is the slowest. You can see that the Hyundai now has developed more equal to VW (in raw speed) than to Fiesta.
    Again, how do You know?
    Wrong question, again. The burden of proving that the car is fast is on Malcolm and Fiesta just hasn't been delivering results on stages that would prove it.

    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    Of course not, returning the QS will be more than enough, fair and square.
    I think it's clear that current rules try to make the championship more exciting by giving better chances to slower drivers to get closer to the championship leader. With a QS we would see rallies decided just by this one stage. Of course, the con of current rules is that the fastest driver won't win everything, so Mr. Ogier, too bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    In general I agree, but as the order difference is so great for the drivers with similar performance...
    Its not normally like that though is it? Just an unusual situation this time due to Latvala failing to score any points from the first two rallies of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    Its not normally like that though is it? Just an unusual situation this time due to Latvala failing to score any points from the first two rallies of the season.
    Don't bring logic and common sense into this argument, it gives you too much of an advantage and is unfair on others.

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    Great rally! Loved being here!
    GG: "I'm stinky! I needa good shower and nice bowl of pasta!"

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