Rally Sweden 2016

[Rallyper]

If the frost doesn't go down in the ground, the top layer will be spun away, leaving the tires to go full attack on the soft soil beneath. This will mean huge damage to the roads, and a huge cost to fix them afterwards. A cost Rally Sweden can't really bear, and a lot of grim road owners.

Little snow will also mean more cutting, which also is very damaging for the road.

We will wait and see, I off course hope both the saturday and sunday going as planned. And also this year being down to a freak accident of bad luck weaterwise.

What make you state that there is soft soil under?

[dimviii]

Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC 3 ώρεςΠριν από 3 ώρες

Conditions on SS Lesjöfors after recce, a stage organisers have not announced to prepare. @RallySweden #WRC

[bluuford]

Thanks for the answer, a pleasure having a weather expert on the forum. Okay, then I guess the only "guarantee" is to have it higher up north, or higher in altitude, or at least have a "Plan B" set of stages to use if the conditions are troublesome. This Plan B-solution may be the best?

I think that most reasonable is to do it like it is in Monaco. They start in Karlstad, then put cars on trailers, service area somewhere in Hagfors or Mora and stages with remote service starting from Mora-Sälen-Vansbro triangle, then Norway stages and then the stages around colins crest. So, the northern section should almost always have some snow, same for Norwegian stages and last part will be tricky, some years good, others not so good

And to clear on the ground frostcase , we have had very similar weather in here and I would say that road bottom is still cpompletely frozen It takes at least month to melt. I have done drilling under ski track in the middle of May, it was +20 outside, for more than a week alrady and in 20 cm depth we found 20 cm fully frozen layer. Surface under the road freezes quickly even with snow as the snow is quickly compacted by cars. Melting takes a long time as first the ice layer needs to melt. Top layer starts to melt and bottom layers often continiues tofreezes as the cold melting water (from the surface) gets too cool again. So, those -5..-7..-10 dgrees is more than enough for roads to freeze that top layer. It will be just a bit more expensive for competitors who need many, many tires. I do not seesafety risk here apart from one. When there is big lake, Pond, river nearby that is slightly frozen and car goes off the road and through the ice, then it will be very difficult for the crew to find the entrance hole in the ice. But for that, you need extremely terrible luck. And it seems that big lakes are still covered by very thick ice layer that should carry all the cars.

[EstWRC]

So that meeting at 17.30 is called by Michelin. Afraid to hurt their brand name?

[hari]

Some first pictures from Service:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_best...eden_2016.html

[bluuford]

Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC 3 ώρεςΠριν από 3 ώρες

Conditions on SS Lesjöfors after recce, a stage organisers have not announced to prepare. @RallySweden #WRC

They try to level these ruts tonight.

[Viking]

Start list

http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-conten...ruary-2016.pdf

[EstWRC]

Damn, I must change my pickem now. I thought latvala and meeke will start from far back not after Tänak .

[mousti]

Start list

http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-conten...ruary-2016.pdf

Grondal starts 1 minute after Jim vd Heuvel.. Gorban with his Mini WRC 1 minute after Fabre with his DS3 R3. OOUCHH..

[samWRC]

Grondal starts 1 minute after Jim vd Heuvel.. Gorban with his Mini WRC 1 minute after Fabre with his DS3 R3. OOUCHH..

And Foulon is again in front of Lappi . Luckily there's 2 minutes gap between them.