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    I wanted to say one thing about this endless Turn 1 debate of Hamilton-Rosberg after some further reviewing and thinking.

    I can understand, what happened in USA. The track was wet, and Lewis slid wide. However, I do not agree with what Hamilton did with Rosberg in Japan. He just deliberately pushed him off the track. I am surprised he didn't get a penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jens View Post
    I wanted to say one thing about this endless Turn 1 debate of Hamilton-Rosberg after some further reviewing and thinking.

    I can understand, what happened in USA. The track was wet, and Lewis slid wide. However, I do not agree with what Hamilton did with Rosberg in Japan. He just deliberately pushed him off the track. I am surprised he didn't get a penalty.
    This is just like the Hydra, as soon as we put one item to bed another pops up. Ok we get it, you guys don't like Hamilton. All champions get this type of criticism as their way to winning a championship is usually shaded with moments where they have to be aggressive to win. The route to success can be ugly at times, even when it is just the sort of racing that we want to see, some would find reason to criticize. I suppose some want a very sanitized race where there is no touching or hard racing that cause cars to go off the track. Just an orderly fast procession where everyone take their start positions and drive fast to the end of the race. Any attempt to change position would be frowned upon harshly.

    You either want great racing or you don't.

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    What when his way even after winning the championship is shaded with moments where he has to bitch and moan for no good reason at all? He came into the sport with the attitude of a spoilt brat and many years later nothing has changed. McLaren went off in Hungary in his first season after a similar moment when he didn't follow the team strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jens View Post
    I wanted to say one thing about this endless Turn 1 debate of Hamilton-Rosberg after some further reviewing and thinking.

    I can understand, what happened in USA. The track was wet, and Lewis slid wide. However, I do not agree with what Hamilton did with Rosberg in Japan. He just deliberately pushed him off the track. I am surprised he didn't get a penalty.
    Hamilton had the racing line in Japan. There was a opening, he went for it. In Japan, Nico could have also backed out of it and kept second opposed to allowing himself to be pushed out wide. A smarter driver would have realised he was always moving towards a closing gap and played the long game, keeping his position opposed to playing the immediate one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mia 01 View Post
    Lewis Words in this article is an indirect admittment that he played a Dirty move on Nico in the US GP. He know very well why the team have to give Nico one back, he made his one bed. Respect, ha ha ha, no ...... way.

    http://planetf1.com/news/lewis-merc-...rm-to-rosberg/
    He's probably right though. We all know that Rosberg is a cheat and sore loser so, considering the magnitude of Rosberg's fuck up in Austin, Mercedes probably wanted to give him some extra love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Knight View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdTN1A0W7tM

    Well, looking at it again it's not exactly the same, but it's after the move was over and Rosberg exited the corner, that's when Danny should have backed off as Rosberg had the inside line. The beginning of the incident is the same but on the exit of the corner, is about the point I'm making.
    A good vid to illustrate the point , I must say .
    Thanks for posting that .

    The pass attempt into the corner was a dive , to be sure , but Nico , better sighted on the exit , being on the inside , should have seen him coming .
    Had he left that little bit more space , he already had the overspeed to keep the position , but he attempted to close the door too early .

    He didn't slide into the spot .


    Now , from the other side , yes Dan hit his rear tire , showing Nico to be ahead , but that was because of the difference in speed between them because he had locked and gone straight in the corner .
    When Nico ran into his path , he was going straight , accelerating to get out first .
    And , technically , he was ahead , only moments before .


    So , for me , the verdict is that Rosberg deserved a penalty there , and perhaps avoided it with a flat .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ben View Post
    I've read his comments too. He's a very graceful man. It's just so easy not to like him. He's basically bitching and moaning the team didn't favor him. Apparently the team having the same strategy for both drivers means the team is extra warm to Rosberg. What an a$$***
    The BBC article seems to be where planet f1 have quoted it from and they appear to have lifted pieces out of it for sensation and removed context. Read the full article is my advice.

    I don't think Lewis is miffed because the team didn't favour him. I think he was miffed because he was being asked to pit earlier than needed in order for Nico to maintain the lead. Had Lewis completed another 3 laps it is likely he would have jumped Nico. As a driver I can see his frustration, but the team needed to boost Nico's morale so I can see why they did it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ben View Post
    What when his way even after winning the championship is shaded with moments where he has to bitch and moan for no good reason at all? He came into the sport with the attitude of a spoilt brat and many years later nothing has changed. McLaren went off in Hungary in his first season after a similar moment when he didn't follow the team strategy.
    I think it shows despite winning the championship he still has the thirst to continue winning. He could sit back and let his team mate pick up a few wins but he's competitive like many of the legends of the sport.

    He had reason to question the call and I think it's refreshing to see a driver who is switched on to what is going on. He did follow the order one lap later.
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    He told his team he didn't trust them .

    And then , afterwards , told them he believed they had lied to him about the safety of his tires .

    He , very publicly , questioned his team .
    It's not a way to build trust .

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    Quote Originally Posted by henners88 View Post
    I think it shows despite winning the championship he still has the thirst to continue winning. He could sit back and let his team mate pick up a few wins but he's competitive like many of the legends of the sport.

    He had reason to question the call and I think it's refreshing to see a driver who is switched on to what is going on. He did follow the order one lap later.
    You see thirst of winning, I see a spiteful person

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