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    Pedro Meireles won his first event with R5 Carlos Vieira won a stage on 4wd and gravel debut.

    Rali de Mortágua: http://ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=...-Mortagua-2015

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    Pedro Meireles won his first event with R5 Carlos Vieira won a stage on 4wd and gravel debut.
    Has to be said that Meireles win just happened due to Fontes problems and Moura lost time in Fontes dust...nice rally from Martins, Vieira and Ruivo. Last round (Casinos do Algarve, using some former Rallye de Portugal stages) will decide overall title between Fontes and Moura and 2wd titles between Cid, Ruivo and Neto!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67l7Aq8g7q8

    PS: Nunes retirement was due to mechanical problems or illicit service?
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    My bet: Fontes and Ruivo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    My bet: Fontes and Ruivo
    A winning bet, but I'd love to see Moura fight back at Algarve and get the championship. The crash in Madeira was a major disappointment to him and the ARC team. The title could be the right motivation to see them in 2016!
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    Motorshow Porto with Juha Kankkunen
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    I was there Impressive KKK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    For the better and the worse...12 R5 among how many (20?) total entries?

    FPAK must put aside R4 cars in order to revamp Gr.N championship, because there's no way a N4 car can compete with Lopes R4 Impreza.

    2WD championship must be disputed only at the 6 national (continental) events in order to make it more affordable and the junior (iniciados) championship can have that same 6 events, to get a proper mix of tarmac and gravel rallyes.
    6 rounds it's a very compact championship. I actually think that if inscription prices are cut let's say in 80%, we could have a 10 round championship. Since Azores was the cheapest this year, and if Madeira could do the same, I think that we really could do it. Going to the islands it's essencial, after all, it's a national championship.

    My ideal calendar will be starting with gravel and ending with tarmac:

    Gravel:
    Fafe
    Algarve
    Mortagua
    Serpa (or something like it)
    Azores
    Tarmac:
    Madeira
    Marinha Grande
    Guimarães
    Castelo Branco
    Viana do Castelo

    You can also make a Gravel and Tarmac Cup like in ERC.

    In other news, probably 3 N4 will be entered in CPR and in 2WD, it's probable that we have some new cars, as well, as in the initiation cup.

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    Ó TFT e aqui dá pra falar só em tuguês?

    Putting aside the expensive Madeira and Açores events, a 2WD champ with 6 events (Fafe, Mortágua, Algarve + Guimarães, Vidreiro and C.Branco) is more than enought* for a secondary series.

    Forget making separate tarmac/gravel cups or champs. We need to concentrate competitors, not to disperse them (btw, in ERC those cups are useless).

    Those extra N4 and 2WD cars you mentioned are mostly welcome. It's great to get to a rally and see all those top teams with R5 cars, but amateurs crews must be the core of any national rally series and they've become a sort of "on the verge of extinction specie" at PRC!

    As you said, Açores and Madeira (and also Rallye de Portugal) are essential, but they should count only for the top (4wd) champ, because even if organizers offer cheaper entries the overall running cost of any of this international rallyes will always be twice than any of the national events.

    *in 2013 the 2WD champ had only 5 national events (5+1 international joker in 2014), and nobody really complained!
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