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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    somebody to help with translation?

    Yes technical director fired. After a broken turbo and engine during a test the team didn't get data from him (i think?). That doesn't comfort Neuville, people are talking about a return to Citroën in 2017, even sooner when the tests aren't convincing.

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    Not great news if the 2016 car is potentially not sorted yet. That was Neuville's beacon of hope.

    But how can people start linking Neuville to Citroen in 2017 when Citroen don't seem to know what they are doing for '17?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmi View Post
    Not great news if the 2016 car is potentially not sorted yet. That was Neuville's beacon of hope.
    cant find any connection with Neuvilles bad pace with the unfinished new i20....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toyoda View Post
    What suprises me is that in the interview he said he was not interested in developing the car until right at the end. He needs to get the car built around him, meaning more testing input, although I have heard he is not as mechanically minded as other drivers such as paddon
    That is a possibly a really good point. Can any forum members with sufficient knowledge speak about how much impact a driver can have in the very first stages of car development (in terms of directing a car set-up to his/her preference)?
    If it's a lot then I agree, Neuville should be getting stuck in right from the start!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper View Post
    Yes technical director fired. After a broken turbo and engine during a test the team didn't get data from him (i think?). That doesn't comfort Neuville, people are talking about a return to Citroën in 2017, even sooner when the tests aren't convincing.
    Do they really fire him without being sure about having all the data shared with anybody else? Really? This is a joke, can't believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    Do they really fire him without being sure about having all the data shared with anybody else? Really? This is a joke, can't believe it.

    Probably there's much more around it. I just translated the piece of journalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper View Post
    Probably there's much more around it. I just translated the piece of journalism.
    Yes maybe. I hope so.

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    Police raid VW headquarters as probe mounts in Germany, US - http://news.yahoo.com/german-police-...131127901.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by car View Post
    That is a possibly a really good point. Can any forum members with sufficient knowledge speak about how much impact a driver can have in the very first stages of car development (in terms of directing a car set-up to his/her preference)?
    If it's a lot then I agree, Neuville should be getting stuck in right from the start!
    I'm mostly an engine guy and I am not so well versed in the handling side of a car, but I imagine that this is the area where the driver really can make a difference in testing. He/she can feel the traction out of the corners and the yaw and roll of the car. Also a driver with a certain driving style can get the balance of the car good I guess. There better experts at this than me.

    Engines are usually run in a dyno of sorts and engine development process is very different from road testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    I'm mostly an engine guy and I am not so well versed in the handling side of a car, but I imagine that this is the area where the driver really can make a difference in testing. He/she can feel the traction out of the corners and the yaw and roll of the car. Also a driver with a certain driving style can get the balance of the car good I guess. There better experts at this than me.

    Engines are usually run in a dyno of sorts and engine development process is very different from road testing.
    Wan't Makkinen often accused of building EVO around his driving style so noone of teammate couldn't really win with that car?

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