Toyota announces WRC plans

[Sulland]

Will we see the Celica name doing a comeback?
Would be nice!

[MikeD]

Jukhi smells money and his most loyal dog also... it has been long time since he fed one of his nobodies to the sport.

Taking control of a whole team is far more beneficial.

2 years maximum then a nice flop.

Look at Honda, Toyota, Subaru and Suzuki over the last 10-15 years in F1, WRC, WEC and WTCC. It has been nothing but flops, flops and yet more flops.

Japan today, is so far away from being cutting edge and Toyota coming back to the WRC will be just another flop. It's the European car makers that dominates motorsport today and will continue to do so.

[RS]

Look at Honda, Toyota, Subaru and Suzuki over the last 10-15 years in F1, WRC, WEC and WTCC. It has been nothing but flops, flops and yet more flops.

Japan today, is so far away from being cutting edge and Toyota coming back to the WRC will be just another flop. It's the European car makers that dominates motorsport today and will continue to do so.

When you think about it, when Subaru, Toyota and Mitsubishi were successful in WRC the cars were developed in Europe, so there is hope for the new Toyota project yet..

[MikeD]

When you think about it, when Subaru, Toyota and Mitsubishi were successful in WRC the cars were developed in Europe, so there is hope for the new Toyota project yet..

But that's a long time ago, and since then the whole Japanese philosofi of doing things, has led to a closed country who doesn't want inspiration from the outside world, but instead produce more diapers to old people than to children.

No doubt Toyota they have to develop in Europe to stand any chance of success, but they have to limit all japanese influence in running the team, which I think will be difficult. So I call yet another massive flop that will last 2 years before they pull out with yet another pathetic excuse.

[Rallyper]

Not long ago we all wanted more manufacturers in the WRC. Now when the 5th is coming (I count them all) why complain of things we don´t know a s**t about?
Let´s wish them all luck and that WRC gets more competition and more good young drivers to beat Sebs.
So no more whining about flops.

[bowler]

Not long ago we all wanted more manufacturers in the WRC. Now when the 5th is coming (I count them all) why complain of things we don´t know a s**t about?
Let´s wish them all luck and that WRC gets more competition and more good young drivers to beat Sebs.
So no more whining about flops.

Agree completely. Armchair experts making judgements on dreams they've never been able to achieve

[N.O.T]

Not long ago we all wanted more manufacturers in the WRC. Now when the 5th is coming (I count them all) why complain of things we don´t know a s**t about?
Let´s wish them all luck and that WRC gets more competition and more good young drivers to beat Sebs.
So no more whining about flops.

because we want manufacturers that at least will try and challenge the established order... we do not need suzuki and mini efforts. Makinen is a nobody as a team manager, his team was useless all these years, a laughing stock. And we all know Jukhis ways with drivers and teams...

[Rallyper]

because we want manufacturers that at least will try and challenge the established order... we do not need suzuki and mini efforts. Makinen is a nobody as a team manager, his team was useless all these years, a laughing stock. And we all know Jukhis ways with drivers and teams...

I think you mix up many things. You´ve already seen so much more testing from Toyota than from the Mini or Suzuki manus. Saying they are not trying, from what we´ve seen so far?
And judging out Mäkinen at this point can´t be done. And Jouhki - what´s his involvement, you say?

[DonJippo]

And we all know Jukhis ways with drivers and teams...

Jouhki has nothing to do with this.

[N.O.T]

Jouhki has nothing to do with this.

but somehow an unproven, untested nobody driver he manages got in the toyota team... hmmmm