Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2015

**dimviii** · 24th May 2015, 21:43

**Rallyper** · 24th May 2015, 21:46

This OT I know: I think everyone of us other born natural fellows are way under your radar most of the time. Having said that it means you´ll have to seek for dialogue with outer space fellows when you´re skyrockethigh?

**stefanvv** · 24th May 2015, 21:47

Originally Posted by AL14

The main difference between the two, talking about respect, is that Loeb didn't need to say everytime he was the best. He let his performances and accomplishments speak for himself, and it was more than enough.

Respect is subjective opinion. People also have different standards what to respect more, and what less. Ogier talks too much about the championship rules, Capito also tried to do something about them, but soon gave up as there was no support from nowhere, it is true somebody else wouldn't talk that much. All just humans anyway with their qualities and falls.

**stefanvv** · 24th May 2015, 21:49

Originally Posted by Rallyper

This OT I know: I think everyone of us other born natural fellows are way under your radar most of the time. Having said that it means you´ll have to seek for dialogue with outer space fellows when you´re skyrockethigh?

I often wonder why he even bother to argue with lots of people, as the standards are so high.....

**dimviii** · 24th May 2015, 21:53

**dimviii** · 24th May 2015, 22:02

Originally Posted by stefanvv

Respect is subjective opinion. People also have different standards what to respect more, and what less.

this is very general speaking you are talking,but here we dont speak generally about respect,but respect for a reason.
And Ogier doesnt deserve respect for a particular reason,as you saw, even inside his homeland compared to Loeb from his copatriots.

Originally Posted by stefanvv

Ogier talks too much about the championship rules,

no he dont talk too much about rules,he talks too much about rules only when he dont win.
When he was pushing Loeb when he was cleaning all gravel rallies for years,he didn t spoke about rules at all.
Why?

Originally Posted by stefanvv

Capito also tried to do something about them, but soon gave up as there was no support from nowhere, it is true somebody else wouldn't talk that much. All just humans anyway with their qualities and falls.

trying to find excuses about silly Ogiers behaviour doesnt help.

**AL14** · 24th May 2015, 22:10

Originally Posted by stefanvv

Respect is subjective opinion.

Although I find it is not subjective since we are talking about being respected by people in general and not individuals, yes he is human but so Loeb was and he had a way different stature than Ogier.

**EstWRC** · 24th May 2015, 22:15

Great gallery http://jree.ee/gallery/wrc-portugal/

**AL14** · 24th May 2015, 22:17

And anyway, looking at current "rising stars", Ogier finishing his career with bigger numbers than Loeb is not far from possible...

**N.O.T** · 24th May 2015, 22:21

Originally Posted by AL14

And anyway, looking at current "rising stars", Ogier finishing his career with bigger numbers than Loeb is not far from impossible...

Ogier only has 3 titles (2015 included)... he needs another 6 to be even.

I doubt VW will stay in the sport that long and i doubt that someone will not close the gap or emerge...

patience is a virtue.