Mercedes strategy of the Race - Monaco

[airshifter]

Really no need for the thread to determine the real donkey. It's all about the runner up donkeys at this point!


The penalty on Alonso was a joke. The bump Ricciardo made on Kimi was forced by Ricciardo and didn't get a penalty. From the shots I saw Fred had nowhere else to go and barely got loose, and he got nailed for it.

What happened with RB making Ricciardo give the position back to Kvyat? Did Daniel bump both cars the way he hit Kimi?

[steveaki13]

Really no need for the thread to determine the real donkey. It's all about the runner up donkeys at this point!


The penalty on Alonso was a joke. The bump Ricciardo made on Kimi was forced by Ricciardo and didn't get a penalty. From the shots I saw Fred had nowhere else to go and barely got loose, and he got nailed for it.

What happened with RB making Ricciardo give the position back to Kvyat? Did Daniel bump both cars the way he hit Kimi?

I agree Daniel should have had a penalty.

The team ordered Kyvat to let the faster tyred Ricciardo past into 4th and try and get onto the podium. When he couldn't he let Kyvat back past on the last lap.

[Jag_Warrior]

Since this isn't the first time that Mercedes' superior car & engine combo hasn't been able to overcome some foolishness within the AMG team... Mercedes replaced Ross Brawn with the little dog from the Wizard of Oz why exactly??? I wonder if Dieter Zetsche is asking that question right now?

[The Black Knight]

Got to add to my last post after re watching the Max and Grosjean crash. I'm going to nominate Grosjean for donkey number two of the race for clearly brake testing Max. It's not a road car where if you're the guy behind you defacto at fault. It's clear from the video that Grosjean braked too early and that's what caused the crash. I don't blame Max for that one. Another bad decision by the Stewards.

It's a real pity that the Stewards side with what the public really expect to happen versus what actually does. The data will show Grosjean braking earlier and it's also visually clear.

[steveaki13]

I thought that from the start.

Grosjean seemed to slow way before the corner.

Only the Manors were braking that early.

[N4D13]

By the way, with all the fuss about Merc's strategy and the stewards' questionable decisionmaking, no one has mentioned Toro Rosso's disastrous pitstop.

[donKey jote]

Really no need for the thread to determine the real donkey. It's all about the runner up donkeys at this point!


The penalty on Alonso was a joke. The bump Ricciardo made on Kimi was forced by Ricciardo and didn't get a penalty. From the shots I saw Fred had nowhere else to go and barely got loose, and he got nailed for it.

What happened with RB making Ricciardo give the position back to Kvyat? Did Daniel bump both cars the way he hit Kimi?

big donkey goes to the German TV biased coverage... Alonso well deserved it (against our poor hulk ), but Ric vs Kimi was "meh, these things happen in Monaco when you've nowhere to go"...
And I thought Spanish TV were bad, but these were unbelievable!

[Tazio]

The penalty on Alonso was a joke. The bump Ricciardo made on Kimi was forced by Ricciardo and didn't get a penalty. From the shots I saw Fred had nowhere else to go and barely got loose, and he got nailed for it.

The stewards really sucked this race, big surprise. As I said earlier I think Freddy got a penalty for being responsible for an accident, but unless they saw something that I didn't it is a fairly retarded call to make for a first turn of the race incident in the middle of the pack. It is annoying to me, not because it was Fred, but because they are trying to discourage bold maneuvers on a track like Monaco. It reminds me of a race I rewatched a while back, and I don't recall which one it was precisely, but it was very early in Fernando's carrer. I believe it was 2003 or 2004, and it was early in the season. Fred did what Renault did very well back when launch control was abolished, he got a cracking start, and a very bold one, something that he along with a couple other guys in the current field have done very well throughout their careers, and I remember Martin Brundle commenting that that kind of risk taking is irresponsible, and something he needs to get over or he won't last in F1 or something to that effect. Boy did Brundle dial a wrong number on that one. At any rate the penalty was a minor one and if he had been able to finnish the race all it would have done was cause him one position, and a chance to maybe fight for one more. It certainly wasn't Hulk's fault, and he ended up going to the back of the field. I think this was a consideration by the stewards, and it really shouldn't be. It was simply a first lap first corner racing incident.

[anfield5]

Would have been a fun atmosphere at Mercedes afterwards. Hamiltwat, sulks like a toddler any time he doen't win, so this would have been priceless.

[Jag_Warrior]

Would have been a fun atmosphere at Mercedes afterwards. Hamiltwat, sulks like a toddler any time he doen't win, so this would have been priceless.

Unlike Brittany, I guess he's just not used to it.