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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk2 RS2000 View Post
    Again from the MotorSport NZ schedule of standard penalties
    A3R.16
    Failure to display a warning
    triangle.
    $500.00
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    Licence for a minimum of 1
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    Stewards have the authority to add additional penalties.

    One of the beauties of the in-car system is that you get a pre-warning aof a stopped vehicle. For instance with Rallysafe we get a 250 - 300 metres warning prior to an accident scene or a vehicle stoppage as the system also transmits between competing vehicles so it is a bit like the yellow flag in the motor race scene where to do get a warning of a situation before you become part of it.

    When it comes to a hearing with the Clerk of the Course or the Stewards it is pretty hard to argue that you did not know about the incident

    The in-car system does not remove the requirement to erect a safety triangle approx. 50 metres from the scene but sometimes people are still extracting themselves when the next car arrives.
    again no answer to the question... the car infront could be halted because a small wire fell off or because the car exploded in a million pieces or it stopped 200 meters in a field or sunk down the ocean and nowhere to be seen.

    Do the drivers following need to slow down/stop once they get the incar signal ?

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    "the car infront could be halted because a small wire fell off or because the car exploded in a million pieces or it stopped 200 meters in a field or sunk down the ocean and nowhere to be seen."

    Correct



    "Do the drivers following need to slow down/stop once they get the incar signal ?"

    Do you need to slow down/stop once you get a yellow traffic light at an intersection? I would like to know as we are coming your way shortly and wouldn't like to be involved in a traffic accident.

    Look we are getting away from the guts of this thread which is about Rally Argentina

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    Rally Argentina is over... Meeke won.

    the question is simple...

    Is there an official regulation that states what a driver must do if he doesn't see any sos/ok/triangle and gets an incar signal that the car in front is not moving ??

    I am aware that if a driver gets a sign he must act accordingly, but so far people are accusing Tanak that he did not slow down/stop while there was no indication for him to do so (apart from a guy standing 10 meters away from the accident)

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    Rally Argentina is over... Meeke won.

    the question is simple...

    Is there an official regulation that states what a driver must do if he doesn't see any sos/ok/triangle and gets an incar signal that the car in front is not moving ??

    I am aware that if a driver gets a sign he must act accordingly, but so far people are accusing Tanak that he did not slow down/stop while there was no indication for him to do so (apart from a guy standing 10 meters away from the accident)
    As posted earlier:

    "and ignores all the in-car warning systems, well we will have to wait and see what has been verified and reported to the FIA for further action."

    The FIA does not list a schedule of standard penalties on their website that I am able to find but I am confident that the Stewards handbook has them listed

    Again, using the system that I am familiar with the yellow light is a warning that there is hazard ahead and to be prepared to stop, the safety triangle identifies the spot. The SOS or OK signs mean exactly that. If the Yellow hazard light is illuminated along with a green OK light then the road is clear and no assistance is required. If the red light is activated stop.

    FYI, the Rallysafe system has identified cars in the water here in NZ. If it had been in use in Mexico at Rally HQ it would have shown the"g" forces that went into Tanak's car, the rollover and it's path off the road along with its last known GPS location. The tracks are on Google earth, HQ just zooms into where that reading is. . The cars following Tanak would have had the yellow hazard warning but no green ok. I really cannot understand why every event organiser in the world is not using it.

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    so no official rule, and it up to the event organiser to give direction of what must happen in case no sign is at the location of the incident... Court dismissed... Tanak not guilty...

    go and enjoy the rest of your lives people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    so no official rule, and it up to the event organiser to give direction of what must happen in case no sign is at the location of the incident... Court dismissed... Tanak not guilty...

    go and enjoy the rest of your lives people.


    40.2.4 In the case of an accident where immediate medical intervention is not required, the “OK” sign must be clearly shown by a crew member to the following vehicles and to any helicopter attempting to assist.
    40.2.5 If the crew leaves the vehicle, the “OK” sign must be displayed so that it is clearly visible to other competitors.
    40.2.6 Any crew which is able but fails to comply with the above rules will be reported to the clerk of the course.
    Great, no brilliant conclusion...

    been sniffing too many test tubes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post
    Great, no brilliant conclusion...

    been sniffing too many test tubes?
    John, it is late on a Friday night (his time) and he is in a university city. He should be out getting drunk and/or laid but instead he is tied up in his little room with only his computer and us guys as his only real friends in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk2 RS2000 View Post
    John, it is late on a Friday night (his time) and he is in a university city. He should be out getting drunk and/or laid but instead he is tied up in his little room with only his computer and us guys as his only real friends in the world.
    pretty shallow point of view of what fun is...

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    Because of something that you fail to do I will, according to the Oxford English Dictionary have the last word on our little debate. You may have to look it up as it is not in common usage today however the meaning remains unchanged. The word is zyxt.

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