New R4 Car - Think Tank

[OldF]

Does FIA even homologate any new N-group cars? If it’s true what Wikipedia tells, no new homologations from 2013.

I have to quote myself.

I checked today from our ASN about the N-group homologation and yes, it’s still possible to homologate new N-group cars. The info on FIA’s pages are not so up to date.

[Sulland]

If you could design the rules and regulations for a new entry class for the 4 wd world.

3 pre conditions
a. Tuners can homologate via national ASN.
b. Hp per kg limit
c. Standard gearbox, diffs and suspension, made for durability.


There has to be a way apart from one class to get a new car class that is could form a starting point for privat drivers both nationally and internationally?

[Rallyper]

Gearbox must be sekvential dogbox. No driver want to drive with standard gearboxes. Also a reliability matter. There are so many good gb to buy, Sadev, Quaife, Hewland...

[Mirek]

If you could design the rules and regulations for a new entry class for the 4 wd world.

3 pre conditions
a. Tuners can homologate via national ASN.
b. Hp per kg limit
c. Standard gearbox, diffs and suspension, made for durability.

This is oxymoron.

[Sulland]

Standard was a bad choice of word.
but what I meant was that as in S2000 you have 1 or 2 manufacturers of gearboxes will be allowed to make sequential gearboxes for this class after a spec.
So not standard as for Gr N.

What can be done to keep the cost down for the rest of the driveline, apart from engine?

[Mirek]

I don't think that limiting a part to a single supplier would make it cheaper.

[Sulland]

I feel there is a lack of constructive suggestions on how to fill the R4 hole in the ladder with somethong new.

The reason might of course be that you mean that the is no need to fill it - that is fine, say that.

But if you mean there is a need for an entry level class in to 4 wd rallying, not neccesarely for the World Rally Championship, but more for the national scenes, and maybe the regional as in ERC.

What is the best way to get a reliable and Affordable car for the privateer. I am thinking in the bracket of 60-70 000 euro.
Is the only option to go for a one car class, or can it be achieved using other means to keep the price down as well?

Is this a non starter, if so why?
If you see that this could fly, how?

[Mk2 RS2000]

http://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/d...lly%20Cars.pdf

This is where NZ was 8 months ago with their replacement car program, things have progressed since then and are getting closer to finalisation

[OldF]

http://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/d...lly%20Cars.pdf

This is where NZ was 8 months ago with their replacement car program, things have progressed since then and are getting closer to finalisation

Teemu/Rallirinki.net retweeted Jack Hintz ‏@rallymadmedia 14h14 hours ago
This looks familiar...excited that it has been revealed!



This is probably a part of the progress.

Bigger pick.

[OldF]

The clock start to click for the Evo. Last 1000 examples batch of evos called “Lancer Evolution Final Edition”.

http://digital.motorsportmonday.com/...4-cff2d280cd27