Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

[KiwiWRCfan]

The Canadian Russian known as Crazy Leo talks LOeb vs Ogier from inside a bar
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v...type=2&theater
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[Sulland]

Will BBC and Clarkson get the issue fixed, or will we see Top Gear on another channel?
If new channel - what channel do you think?

[lewalcindor]

Will BBC and Clarkson get the issue fixed, or will we see Top Gear on another channel?
If new channel - what channel do you think?

Nothing's going to happen. Top Gear = £££££££££££££££££ for BBC. And I still think I need more pound sterling symbols, because it really can't be emphasized enough how much Top Gear makes for the network.

If Clarkson pulled this stunt as the host of some middle-of-the-road show that doesn't get much ratings, he'd likely be fired on the spot. Or at worst, his show would be cancelled. But he's not. He makes the BBC a shit-ton of money, so all he gets is a week's suspension, nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

[journeyman racer]

Deep down, we know Rally>Circuit racing. I'm intrigued to read the opinions of hardened Rally fans of this post, on another site I'm on?

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thread...#post-37433383

[Mintexmemory]

Ask Kubica - I like the epigram 'F1 drivers perfect the same corners hundreds of times, WRC drivers have to perfect 1000s of corners once'. The cojones required by the top WRC drivers in addition to comparable skill sets put them way ahead in my book, and I have been a circuit racing fan longer than I became a rallying fan.

[journeyman racer]

That's a good start. But I want some more ammunition, from more hardened Rally fans, before I start trolling those other guys.

I'll bring up what I think is a good point. The cars are all specialised. But I think circuit racing car, particular F1 with all the downforce, is so far from conventional driving, that it may tread a line where it isn't even a legit driving competition. Even with some Touring, or V8Supercars. The input into them is so much, that you kind on have to become a specialist driver to excel in them.

With Rallying. The cars may be easier, and it may be less punishing physically. But it's a more conventional as a car goes. In circuit racing, your the driving performances may not accurately reflect your ability. In Rallying, I think this is less the case. In circuit racing, Fernando Alonso is better than Jamie Whincup, but I'm not sure Alonso would beat Whincup in a V8Supercar. In Rallying, the World Champion would definitely be superior driver to a domestic champion.

Agree?

[stefanvv]

I'll bring up what I think is a good point. The cars are all specialised. But I think circuit racing car, particular F1 with all the downforce, is so far from conventional driving, that it may tread a line where it isn't even a legit driving competition. Even with some Touring, or V8Supercars. The input into them is so much, that you kind on have to become a specialist driver to excel in them.

The input a driver must excel in Rallying is much more than any circuit racing. It's not only the variety of corners, but surface, grip levels, risk management. As defined in Nose end first thread - the "toolboxes" are more a driver must learn to handle. Not to mention the need of co-driver and the good co-operation with him.

With Rallying. The cars may be easier, and it may be less punishing physically. But it's a more conventional as a car goes. In circuit racing, your the driving performances may not accurately reflect your ability. In Rallying, I think this is less the case. In circuit racing, Fernando Alonso is better than Jamie Whincup, but I'm not sure Alonso would beat Whincup in a V8Supercar. In Rallying, the World Champion would definitely be superior driver to a domestic champion.

Less punishing physically? Then You probably don't know about the marathon Rallies in Group B days. As for conventional driving, I don't agree at all, no left foot braking and Scandinavian flicks in conventional driving just for one example.

[Mintexmemory]

Re the physicality issue: don't think little Lewis would cope on a gravel stage with the power steering failed, and there are many other challenges of endurance, even in the modern style of WRC, that the drivers have to face.

[Nornbugger]

The input a driver must excel in Rallying is much more than any circuit racing. It's not only the variety of corners, but surface, grip levels, risk management. As defined in Nose end first thread - the "toolboxes" are more a driver must learn to handle. Not to mention the need of co-driver and the good co-operation with him.



Less punishing physically? Then You probably don't know about the marathon Rallies in Group B days. As for conventional driving, I don't agree at all, no left foot braking and Scandinavian flicks in conventional driving just for one example.

Oh yes, remember that great athlete that won the World Rally Championship 30 years ago

[Mirek]

May I ask what is such penis measurement contest good for? It's old as hell and nobody ever won it. If the only purpose is trolling than it doesn't require any serious inputs...